Looky what I [finally] caught!!

[jelly_biscuit]

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Silkielover - you're absolutely right. No one "has" to kill a predator. But I think people need to think about why they're releasing instead of killing them. Especially when they know that it's not in the animal's best interest. It's not pleasant to kill something. It's no fun having to deal with a dead animal. It's so much easier to just let it go and not have to do the dirty work ourselves. Not ALL relocated animals are killed, obviously. But what about those who do starve to death, or get eaten by something else, or are constantly run off by the already established animals of their own species? How is that kinder than instant death by a bullet to the head? Raccoons can be "pretty cute", but have you ever seen a snarling, growling, barking, teeth-baring one after your dog? Have you ever cleaned up your coop after an attack on your birds? I'm not trying to be snarky here, so my apologies right now if I'm coming across that way.

Exactly right. I don't have to tell my children I love them, inform a cashier if they've given me too much change, take my neighbor a meal when he was sick, but it's the right thing to do. You're exactly right. No one "has" to do the right thing, but does that mean they shouldn't?

ETA: In case it wasn't clear, I'm agreeing with you, bobbi-j. Not you though, silkielover (regarding relocation, although I'm all for improving your coop with lighting, netting, etc. - that's my preferred choice for dealing with predators instead of trapping and killing).

 

[ODS-n-ENS FARM]

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You are right she does not have to kill it,but according to Washington State law raccoons cannot be relocated due to "disease control and transmission". If killing is not an option it can only be released/ relocated on the property it was trapped on.

 

[Olive Hill]

Nevermind...

 

[Ibicella]

I have to wonder what this coon was doing when you caught him. Mud wrestling?

I agree with the others, I strongly suggest getting yourself a gun and shooting it.

 

[Sherry]

I never really want to kill the ones I trap, but just couldn't wrap my mind around releasing a coon, even if it was way, way out, and having it become someone else's predator problem.

Now I take them to my coon hunting co-workers...they release them for me.

 

[silkielover5]

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Silkielover - you're absolutely right. No one "has" to kill a predator. But I think people need to think about why they're releasing instead of killing them. Especially when they know that it's not in the animal's best interest. It's not pleasant to kill something. It's no fun having to deal with a dead animal. It's so much easier to just let it go and not have to do the dirty work ourselves. Not ALL relocated animals are killed, obviously. But what about those who do starve to death, or get eaten by something else, or are constantly run off by the already established animals of their own species? How is that kinder than instant death by a bullet to the head? Raccoons can be "pretty cute", but have you ever seen a snarling, growling, barking, teeth-baring one after your dog? Have you ever cleaned up your coop after an attack on your birds? I'm not trying to be snarky here, so my apologies right now if I'm coming across that way.

all im saying is that she could just let the coon go and improve her coop. even if she killed it doesnt mean her chickens are safe cause im sure there are other coons on her property. no i havent had to pick up after a coon attack, but i did have to pick up after my dog jumped our fence and killed 30 birds, i got home and she had my 9 year old bantam named penny in her mouth barley alive i had to put her down, no i havent had to pick up after a coon attack but i had to pick up the PIECES of my 30 pet and showbirds plus wash their blood off of my beloved dog. did i kill my dog? NO. did i sell her or send her to a shelter? NO. she still runs freely around our property and she hasnt killed a bird since because we fixed up our coop, the fence is now 6 ft tall with netting over the top, fence goes 4 inches under soil and posts are cemented in. we look at predetor attacks as a way to see whats wrong with your coop and fix it so something like that doesnt happen again, we also have motion detector light

 

[mrpekinduck]

I know this sounds cruel but it really isnt, slit its jugular with a sharp knife THROUGH the TRAP do NOT take it out of the trap! This will make it bleed out in a mtter of seconds and doesn't cause any suffering. nYou're other option is to tie a rope to the trap and then throw it in a lake. The animal will drown and then you will get you're trap back.

 

[bobbi-j]

slit its jugular with a sharp knife THROUGH the TRAP do NOT take it out of the trap

Have you actually used this method? I'm trying to envision sticking a knife into a trap with a vicious, cornered, moving raccoon and being able to get close enough to it to slit its throat. You must have a very long blade on your knife and be able to move alot faster than I do. Or maybe your trap is smaller. The coons we've caught have been able to move around in the trap. Not trying to be snarky, just wondering how you make this work.

 

[LizaBlue]

not entering debate, just sharing:

one of my FB friends tried the "Night Eyes" product to deter night time predators, and found evidence the first night that it had worked. It was muddy out so she could see foot prints coming towards where she had it set up, then abruptly stop and retreat. She was so impressed she said she was going to buy more that very day. I don't have experience myself, just passing on the info.

 

[ChickieBooBoo]

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Silkielover - you're absolutely right. No one "has" to kill a predator. But I think people need to think about why they're releasing instead of killing them. Especially when they know that it's not in the animal's best interest. It's not pleasant to kill something. It's no fun having to deal with a dead animal. It's so much easier to just let it go and not have to do the dirty work ourselves. Not ALL relocated animals are killed, obviously. But what about those who do starve to death, or get eaten by something else, or are constantly run off by the already established animals of their own species? How is that kinder than instant death by a bullet to the head? Raccoons can be "pretty cute", but have you ever seen a snarling, growling, barking, teeth-baring one after your dog? Have you ever cleaned up your coop after an attack on your birds? I'm not trying to be snarky here, so my apologies right now if I'm coming across that way.

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