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Change to the chips whenever (if they are already well adjusted to the regular starter there is little chance they'll try to eat the chips). Tossing damp meal worms onto the crumbles can speed up their ability to identify the feed. This is how they'll look, sleeping, if happy with the temp.Thanks for that boost. I was also thinking I should expand the brooder ... I can open the doors and use a closet door to make another wall, move the lights farther out so its on the edge of the cabinet. Thanks for the idea on shirts and towels as I have hunting dogs we have Three laundri tubs full of towels and thats allot cheaper than using paper towel. Moths would be fun if I can catch them. They seem to have really opend up to the meal worms. The first time I put two in and they all ran from them. Today I put a few in their on my hand and a couple liked them. but not a whole lot of interest. So I just tryed again but this time I put like 25 or 30 of them on my hands and before the minute was up they were going crazy running around eating them up and acting like true birds. At what point can I take them off of towels and put them on shavings?