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Really??? That is genius if it's true but... really? I thought they had other differences, breed wise, including their breed heritage... And if that's the case, then what will happen to all his off-color magpies now that he no longer sells anconas? I'm confused!
I first heard about the Anacona thing several years back on another forum that has a lot of waterfowl exhibtors that contribute to it...I vaguely recall that Anconas had come from Europe..but there was some fact checking done..and nobody in Great Britain knew anything about Ancona ducks. Here is a quote from another site:
"The Ancona was developed in Great Britain during the early twentieth century and most likely originated from Runner ducks and Huttegen ducks, an old Belgian duck. This is the same foundation stock as the Magpie duck. "They have been raised in the United States for several decades and were exhibited in 1983 in Oregon. Although still rare, their numbers have been increasing since 1984 when they first became available to the public." (Holderread 2001, 53)"
As you can see this quote is from Holderread himself and if one was shown for the first time in Oregon...well Mr. Holderread lives in Oregon, 1 + 1= 2.....No breeder from Great Britain has ever come forward to say he/she exported them over here. I truly dont know the what is truth and not truth...but I do know a lot of large waterfowl breeders and judges from both sides of the pond and they all tend to think this is a breed developed by Dave Holderread...that just happens to come from badly colored magpies. Like I have already stated..I dont know the truth one way or another and I probably shouldnt be repeating gossip..but....that is what is out there. I do know we sell ancona call ducks and they sell very well...heck I think my son has a pair that he is going to be selling in a few months on an auction site.
I am really wishing I hadnt even brought this up......I probably should have stayed out of this....and honestly I am just repeating what I have heard.
You can cross white calls on the magpie calls...but it has been done many times, have none of you ever gotten white calls from your Magpies? We do, along with black bibbed....the magpie color pattern does not seem to breed true for us and my son has been breeding them for some time. There are some pretty decent magpies with good type out there, but you would probably have to search for them at shows or auction sites.
Jer
Really??? That is genius if it's true but... really? I thought they had other differences, breed wise, including their breed heritage... And if that's the case, then what will happen to all his off-color magpies now that he no longer sells anconas? I'm confused!
I first heard about the Anacona thing several years back on another forum that has a lot of waterfowl exhibtors that contribute to it...I vaguely recall that Anconas had come from Europe..but there was some fact checking done..and nobody in Great Britain knew anything about Ancona ducks. Here is a quote from another site:
"The Ancona was developed in Great Britain during the early twentieth century and most likely originated from Runner ducks and Huttegen ducks, an old Belgian duck. This is the same foundation stock as the Magpie duck. "They have been raised in the United States for several decades and were exhibited in 1983 in Oregon. Although still rare, their numbers have been increasing since 1984 when they first became available to the public." (Holderread 2001, 53)"
As you can see this quote is from Holderread himself and if one was shown for the first time in Oregon...well Mr. Holderread lives in Oregon, 1 + 1= 2.....No breeder from Great Britain has ever come forward to say he/she exported them over here. I truly dont know the what is truth and not truth...but I do know a lot of large waterfowl breeders and judges from both sides of the pond and they all tend to think this is a breed developed by Dave Holderread...that just happens to come from badly colored magpies. Like I have already stated..I dont know the truth one way or another and I probably shouldnt be repeating gossip..but....that is what is out there. I do know we sell ancona call ducks and they sell very well...heck I think my son has a pair that he is going to be selling in a few months on an auction site.
I am really wishing I hadnt even brought this up......I probably should have stayed out of this....and honestly I am just repeating what I have heard.
You can cross white calls on the magpie calls...but it has been done many times, have none of you ever gotten white calls from your Magpies? We do, along with black bibbed....the magpie color pattern does not seem to breed true for us and my son has been breeding them for some time. There are some pretty decent magpies with good type out there, but you would probably have to search for them at shows or auction sites.
Jer
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