I've heard seramas are, or can be, pretty jumbled up colours. However their plumag colour/pattern genes will be much the same as any other chicken & thus can be manipulated.
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ER and Silver... okay great, one of those can't get there from here... I am going to have chocolate, mottled black and mottled brown/chocolate? pullets to work with.
But to get birchen I'm going to have to get a birchen hen. Can he be used on any other color to produce birchen in a generation or two?
But to get birchen I'm going to have to get a birchen hen. Can he be used on any other color to produce birchen in a generation or two?
But to get birchen I'm going to have to get a birchen hen. Can he be used on any other color to produce birchen in a generation or two?
You can only get to birchen with that hen if the male is birchen. It will also depend upon what other plumage colour genes they are carrying. If the male is ER/? you can get to birchen. If not then you can't.
I only say this because many people seem to approach genetics like mixing paints whereas a better analogy would be a recipe for a cake or bread.
You can only get to birchen with that hen if the male is birchen. It will also depend upon what other plumage colour genes they are carrying. If the male is ER/? you can get to birchen. If not then you can't.
I only say this because many people seem to approach genetics like mixing paints whereas a better analogy would be a recipe for a cake or bread.
Which is why I started asking questions.
live and learn.
And yes, their heritage is in question, so all breeding will be just test breeding.
I will breed him to her, and if I get birchen in there - then he is birchen. I can also get a birchen pullet from a known source that would help things along.
I have a question. If he is birchen he is silver birchen. If the only birchen hen I get is gold birchen, the progeny will be splits - silver/gold? Yes? Taken back to the father they would produce silver birchen, but silver/gold bred to silver/gold will produce either birds that are just silver or just gold? Or would it still produce some splits? I'm having trouble... lol think think... (I smell something burning) spinning wheels....
S/s to S/s:
SS ss.... and? Ss splits. 25/25/ and 50?
And yes, their heritage is in question, so all breeding will be just test breeding.
I will breed him to her, and if I get birchen in there - then he is birchen. I can also get a birchen pullet from a known source that would help things along.
I have a question. If he is birchen he is silver birchen. If the only birchen hen I get is gold birchen, the progeny will be splits - silver/gold? Yes? Taken back to the father they would produce silver birchen, but silver/gold bred to silver/gold will produce either birds that are just silver or just gold? Or would it still produce some splits? I'm having trouble... lol think think... (I smell something burning) spinning wheels....
S/s to S/s:
SS ss.... and? Ss splits. 25/25/ and 50?
If he is birchen he is silver birchen. If the only birchen hen I get is gold birchen, the progeny will be splits - silver/gold? Yes? Taken back to the father they would produce silver birchen, but silver/gold bred to silver/gold will produce either birds that are just silver or just gold? Or would it still produce some splits?
Easier than that.
Silver & gold are sex linked so the female is hemizygous & can only inherite her single gene for the trait from her father. So.....if the male is S/S then all of his female offspring, irrespective of whether the mother is silver or gold, will be S/-.
If you get a gold birchen female (s+/-) to breed with a silver birchen (ER/?, S/S) male, their offspring will be: males S/s+, females S/-.
Easier than that.
Silver & gold are sex linked so the female is hemizygous & can only inherite her single gene for the trait from her father. So.....if the male is S/S then all of his female offspring, irrespective of whether the mother is silver or gold, will be S/-.
If you get a gold birchen female (s+/-) to breed with a silver birchen (ER/?, S/S) male, their offspring will be: males S/s+, females S/-.
Weeee!!! Well that will make for some fun sorts... chuckle.
I was looking at the hen- I let them eat from my hands now a few times a day. And my photography sucked, her breast is a tannish/light salmon color. Not like a welsummer salmon chest, much lighter/tanner than that but not silver/white like it showed up in the photos.
Whatever she is she is certainly pretty.
And my little chocolate pullet has been taking to claiming my whole hand is hers at first which is too funny - she's the size of a smallish sparrow. Even the six week silkies are about triple her size, and quadruple her weight easily.
I was looking at the hen- I let them eat from my hands now a few times a day. And my photography sucked, her breast is a tannish/light salmon color. Not like a welsummer salmon chest, much lighter/tanner than that but not silver/white like it showed up in the photos.
Whatever she is she is certainly pretty.
And my little chocolate pullet has been taking to claiming my whole hand is hers at first which is too funny - she's the size of a smallish sparrow. Even the six week silkies are about triple her size, and quadruple her weight easily.
Wow, they sound tiny. I don't think I've ever even seen a serama in real life.
The salmon breast is usual for e+ birds. I'd expect she's very pretty with that nice black colour. have you thought of developing that colour to....especially as you know you've got the right genes.
Actually I think there is a hobby name for that colour. I think they have that colour in game breeds.
The salmon breast is usual for e+ birds. I'd expect she's very pretty with that nice black colour. have you thought of developing that colour to....especially as you know you've got the right genes.
Hopefully the folks with a background in seramas can help me out with "breed" colors and the right names. I just know they're fairly gorgeous and really intriguing.
The small mottled trio I have in the house right now, will probably turn out bigger birds than the the chocolate but the base color with the mottled is striking. Though they've not begun their spots yet. But they're so nifty, a ton of chicken crammed into a few ounces of bird.
Didn't think I'd like them til my friend handed me one and I got to know him. They're just cool.
I want him to throw one tiny chocolate cockeral my way and I'll be happy
with really too much to work with.
The small mottled trio I have in the house right now, will probably turn out bigger birds than the the chocolate but the base color with the mottled is striking. Though they've not begun their spots yet. But they're so nifty, a ton of chicken crammed into a few ounces of bird.
Didn't think I'd like them til my friend handed me one and I got to know him. They're just cool.
I want him to throw one tiny chocolate cockeral my way and I'll be happy
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You may want to consider changing "Angelina" and "Cowgirl" to something more manly.
You may want to consider changing "Angelina" and "Cowgirl" to something more manly.
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Walkswithdog, your hen looks similar to this one, that I found on Photobucket:
It is labled e+Pg
Also looks like one of mine, but yours is darker.
I was calling my bird partridge, maybe a silver partridge. The pattern I think is called penciling.
It is labled e+Pg
Also looks like one of mine, but yours is darker.
I was calling my bird partridge, maybe a silver partridge. The pattern I think is called penciling.
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