Malpositioned embryo and air cell help

[MeowMinx]

This shipped egg is about 48 hours into incubation. Somehow, a healthy looking embryo developed at the fat end and it’s air cell firmly seated in the middle (lengthwise) of the egg. How should I position it for the rest of its incubation? My options are upright on a rocker or on its side to be turned manually. Thanks!

 

[ChirpyChicks1]

Bumping, hopefully someone will reply to help

 

[beki81]

I incubate all my eggs in an upright position, pointy end down, right up until the 1st internal pip. This is because all my eggs are shipped and air cells are often 'loose' and at risk of settling in the wrong position.
My incubator is an rcom 20, so I have egg boxes that I sit the eggs in to keep them in position and I hand turn them 3 times daily.
Once I see the first internal pip, the eggs are then laid down on their sides to allow the chicks to hatch easily. By this time, the air sacks are usually more 'set' into the correct position and don't move.

 

[MeowMinx]

I incubate all my eggs in an upright position, pointy end down, right up until the 1st internal pip. This is because all my eggs are shipped and air cells are often 'loose' and at risk of settling in the wrong position.
My incubator is an rcom 20, so I have egg boxes that I sit the eggs in to keep them in position and I hand turn them 3 times daily.
Once I see the first internal pip, the eggs are then laid down on their sides to allow the chicks to hatch easily. By this time, the air sacks are usually more 'set' into the correct position and don't move.

All air cells were near the fat end and the eggs were set upright in egg carton. Somehow, this particular egg’s attached to the side and was no longer mobile when I discovered the malpositioning.

Many of the embryos from this batch of shipped eggs are developing in the albumin, just like the one in my original post, seemingly attached to the membrane while yolks float freely. I don’t understand how the embryos can survive without nutrients from yolk.

 

[beki81]

Mmmm. I will be interesting to see how these eggs develop...
I have to say I've never had an embryo attach in the albumin either. I think it's worth carrying on with the hatch though, things may sort themselves out later on?
I have had air sacs slowly move back up to the fat end over the course of the incubation by keeping them upright even when they seem 'set' in a different position.

 

[MeowMinx]

Photo of the egg taken a few minutes ago. Embryo is at the fat end, yolk free floating (here, it’s the darkened area at the lower third of egg). Air cell is where my torch is shining through.

Another weird thing about this batch of shipped eggs - blood rings started appearing 24 hours into incubation.

I’m stumped!

 

[Chickassan]

You let them settle 24 hours before popping them in right? I'd go with the pointy end down approach, iv'e had less than stellar results with eggs on their sides. I only put eggs on their sides on day 19.

 

[MeowMinx]

You let them settle 24 hours before popping them in right? I'd go with the pointy end down approach, iv'e had less than stellar results with eggs on their sides. I only put eggs on their sides on day 19.

Yep! 24 hrs fat ends up at room temp, 48 hrs fat ends up, no turning in incubator; thereafter, eggs with firmly attached air cells were moved onto automatic upright turner. Last ones were moved about 10 hours ago. This particular egg is the only one left in egg carton and leaned side to side on it’s pointy end.

 

[Chickassan]

Wow, it is just weird then lol! Pop it in like the rest and see what happens. Not really much else you can do with that odd one. Keep us posted, I want to know how that turns out.

Yep! 24 hrs fat ends up at room temp, 48 hrs fat ends up, no turning in incubator; thereafter, eggs with firmly attached air cells were moved onto automatic upright turner. Last ones were moved about 10 hours ago. This particular egg is the only one left in egg carton and leaned side to side on it’s pointy end.

 

[MeowMinx]

Wow, it is just weird then lol! Pop it in like the rest and see what happens. Not really much else you can do with that odd one. Keep us posted, I want to know how that turns out.

Do you mean pop it onto turner? I shall do that
My first shipped eggs and over half are clears and blood rings. The remaining ones are mostly weirds. I’ll update here on progress