Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[berkeleysprings]

this might help some to answer
There are three known genes which cause leg feathering -- Pti-1, Pti-2, and pti-3. ("Pti" stands for "ptilopody", which means "foot feathering" or, I suppose more accurately, "feather-footedness").

Pti-1 and Pti-2 are dominant genes. Therefore, it only takes one copy of these genes to produce leg feathering.

Pti-3 is a recessive gene. Therefore, it takes two copies of this gene for pti-3 to produce leg feathering. I have heard that this gene is only present in a breed called Pavloff, but I don't know whether that is true or not.

There also appears to be at least one "feather foot inhibiting gene". This gene (or set of genes) doesn't seem to have a widely accepted label -- and from the small amount I've read about it, it isn't really clear whether this inhibitor is a simple recessive trait or not. If it is recessive, then it would take two copies of this gene to produce its full effect -- and the trait would have to be inherited from BOTH parents. HOWEVER, for all I know this gene might actually be an incomplete dominant -- meaning that it might inhibit leg feathering a bit if there were one copy of the gene, and inhibit leg feathering further if there were two copies of the gene.
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[snowbird]

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Randy, If you keep this up you will be included with genetic experts. Many year ago I studied the Mendel theory.

 

[Debbi]

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Welcome to the Marans thread!

First off, tell us how much shank feathering your parent's birds have. Is it thick and goes all the way down to the outter toes? Or is it sparse, kind of like a stripe running down the leg, with nothing on the toes? If it's the sparse type, you will more than likely end up with chicks with no feathering, and if it's not there at birth, it won't be there later. There are, from what I understand, 3 genes that come into play with the shank/toe feathering, one being an "inhibitor gene". When two birds both have the inhibitor gene, you end up with no feathering. I'm sure someone with more genetic knowledge will pop in and explain it better.

I've got the same problem here that I am working on by using two roos with the heavier shank feathering, one of them is Clyde, my avatar.

 

[colster10000]

i need help what is the difference between a black copper maran hen and a black star hen????

 

[snowbird]

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Welcome to the Marans thread!

First off, tell us how much shank feathering your parent's birds have. Is it thick and goes all the way down to the outter toes? Or is it sparse, kind of like a stripe running down the leg, with nothing on the toes? If it's the sparse type, you will more than likely end up with chicks with no feathering, and if it's not there at birth, it won't be there later. There are, from what I understand, 3 genes that come into play with the shank/toe feathering, one being an "inhibitor gene". When two birds both have the inhibitor gene, you end up with no feathering. I'm sure someone with more genetic knowledge will pop in and explain it better.

I've got the same problem here that I am working on by using two roos with the heavier shank feathering, one of them is Clyde, my avatar.

Debbi, wish I could hatch some chicks with that too heavy leg and toe feathering.

 

[snowbird]

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Two different breeds of chickens all together.

 

[Debbi]

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Welcome to the Marans thread!

First off, tell us how much shank feathering your parent's birds have. Is it thick and goes all the way down to the outter toes? Or is it sparse, kind of like a stripe running down the leg, with nothing on the toes? If it's the sparse type, you will more than likely end up with chicks with no feathering, and if it's not there at birth, it won't be there later. There are, from what I understand, 3 genes that come into play with the shank/toe feathering, one being an "inhibitor gene". When two birds both have the inhibitor gene, you end up with no feathering. I'm sure someone with more genetic knowledge will pop in and explain it better.

I've got the same problem here that I am working on by using two roos with the heavier shank feathering, one of them is Clyde, my avatar.

Debbi, wish I could hatch some chicks with that too heavy leg and toe feathering.

I think you need to start sending me your culls!

 

[berkeleysprings]

not me , i can hardly spell the word genetic but i think its a fight with marans leg feathering , torn between Pti-1 or Pti-2 along with incomplete dominant feather foot inhibiting gene playing tug-a-war carried by the 2 sexes but what do i know im just a carpenter but if anyone needs help cutting hip valley jack rafters with a framing square id be glad to help as long as u toss your speed square out the window , i hate them boomerang looking things but on a secerious note , i want to learn as much as i can on wheaten marans and what would make them better and learning from people like u don or debbi or gibbs or pickchick or blackdotte or bev davis or many of the old time maraners
out there , i am here to learn till they put me in the ground. i am treating wheaten marans like country dancing , im gunna learn the magraw strole first and do it well
befor i try a schottiche and im sure debbi could teach me a thing or two about that also


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Randy, If you keep this up you will be included with genetic experts. Many year ago I studied the Mendel theory.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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Yep, he looks like a "Clyde". I LOVE him!!

 

[Debbi]

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Randy, If you keep this up you will be included with genetic experts. Many year ago I studied the Mendel theory.

Wow, my name sure doesn't belong in that group! I defy you to tell me one thing I've ever taught you!

You are starting to sound like Don and VC with all your fancy geney talk. Shucks, makes a gal feel dumb!

Now, what is a "schottiche"?????