Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

[Mahonri]

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I think they are gorgeous. I'm no judge but I LOVE the first roo.

What color eggs did they come out of? That's really what matters to me.

 

[Debbi]

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Just my opinion, I'm sure others will chime in

#1 Roo: Too dark in coloring, sparse shank feathering, comb blade looks like it is sitting on neck? hard to tell in pic. Lacking in body depth through the breast/belly area.

#2 Roo: Better hackle/saddle coloring, white feathers and fluff coming through. Eyes look "buggy"? May just be the pic? Lacking in body as is the roo above. Comb is one point too many but not bad. Can't see the shank feathering

#3 Hen: I like her the best. Her eyes look buggy too? Nice coloring, sparse shank feathering, nice body, nice comb

 

[The Point]

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Debbi,
I just went out to fed and checked mine. I only have 1 out of 10 in my pen of 3 1/2 mo. old males that has a white primary, he does not have heavily feathered shanks. In my pen of 8 4 1/2 month old males none have white primaries. Three have very heavy feathered shanks. You can see white undercoat in their hackle without lifting the hackle feathers on those 3 only. 12 3 week old chicks, the one with the lightest feathering has the most white.

 

[snowbird]

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Yep, isn't that where the primaries over-lap in reverse? The primaries are held outside the secondaries and it is visible with out opening the wing. It's genetic and a disqualification isn't it?

edited because I had an after thought.....

I only answered the question in part. I should have explained what it should look like.....the primaries actually fold out away from the body instead of in. They kinda look like they (the primaries) are pointing out and you can see that they are actually over- lapped in reverse.

That'll teach me to have an after thought because it was a 15 minute trek back up to the house just to edit.

The primary will not be covered by the secondary and will drop down just a little or a lot. I have seen a few Judge while picking best of variety finding this fault trying to get the bird to pick up his primary by moving it with the judging stick. They will pick the primary up and it will fall right back down.

Where the primary looks reversed is when you have a split wing and the primary will sometimes turn outward at the wing joint.

 

[pinkchick]

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Yep, isn't that where the primaries over-lap in reverse? The primaries are held outside the secondaries and it is visible with out opening the wing. It's genetic and a disqualification isn't it?

edited because I had an after thought.....

I only answered the question in part. I should have explained what it should look like.....the primaries actually fold out away from the body instead of in. They kinda look like they (the primaries) are pointing out and you can see that they are actually over- lapped in reverse.

That'll teach me to have an after thought because it was a 15 minute trek back up to the house just to edit.

The primary will not be covered by the secondary and will drop down just a little or a lot. I have seen a few Judge while picking best of variety finding this fault trying to get the bird to pick up his primary by moving it with the judging stick. They will pick the primary up and it will fall right back down.

Where the primary looks reversed is when you have a split wing and the primary will sometimes turn outward at the wing joint.

Darn it.......and here I was hoping that was the $64,000.00 question!

But atleast I was close.

 

[math ace]

Snowbird and Pink - - -May I beg a picture PLEASE - - -
Otherwise, I don't understand a word you just said - - EXCEPT spilt wing.
I learned that one already !

 

[snowbird]

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The primary will not be covered by the secondary and will drop down just a little or a lot. I have seen a few Judge while picking best of variety finding this fault trying to get the bird to pick up his primary by moving it with the judging stick. They will pick the primary up and it will fall right back down.

Where the primary looks reversed is when you have a split wing and the primary will sometimes turn outward at the wing joint.

Darn it.......and here I was hoping that was the $64,000.00 question!

But atleast I was close.

Last week when I got rid of the cull males I found one with split wing and it was trying to close on the outside of the secondary. First one I have found in all the young I have raised. Don

 

[Debbi]

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Debbi,
I just went out to fed and checked mine. I only have 1 out of 10 in my pen of 3 1/2 mo. old males that has a white primary, he does not have heavily feathered shanks. In my pen of 8 4 1/2 month old males none have white primaries. Three have very heavy feathered shanks. You can see white undercoat in their hackle without lifting the hackle feathers on those 3 only. 12 3 week old chicks, the one with the lightest feathering has the most white.

Tannis,

Thanks for that! So far, but only 8 weeks, my dark, heavily shanked boys have no white fluff. The white juvie primary feathers seem to disappear, at least here, at about 3.5-4 months old, and if the fluff is going to appear, it does so at this age. I am so limited in my experience, but the connection to the two, heavy white primaries and lack of shank feathering, just dawned on me today. Hopefully, my two pick boys don't come down with the white fluff disease! My third pick boy has more white in the primaries, and sparse shank feathering, but he is really coming into his own as well, and looking better by the day! Guess all I can do is wait and see. Anyone else that can check their birds for this??

 

[snowbird]

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Real good pictures on page #20 of the SOP. Don

 

[pinkchick]

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Sure you can but first you have to give us an update on the babies, then a small wait for me to load one.