Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

woah...that does have some bearing, being the birds come from France, but I have both and love both of them.
I think they should have 2 classes.
Out here, at our Fairs, they had no egg competition, that was disapointing too.
 
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If I were breeding to the American standard would his leg color be troublesome? I didn't end up with any cockerels (out of the four) that had slate colored legs, just the two pullets.

Pinkchick- sorry, I missed your question! I was wondering what is the significance of the BCs showing wheaten influence? Are we saying that wheaten influence in a Black Copper= an incorrectly colored bird?

And also Don, if this particular cockerel didn't have white feathering (as the others do, just like you suggested) is there another way in which he's showing "wheaten influence?"

Sorry if these questions don't make much sense, I'm still very new at this and would love to understand what you're talking about! I appreciate all the feedback and critiques!
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Check the soft feathers below the vent area and notice they are a shade of brown and not a shade of black. If he belong to me I would put him on a plane headed to mississippi tomorrow as Ruth wants to buy him. Don​
 
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Check the soft feathers below the vent area and notice they are a shade of brown and not a shade of black. If he belong to me I would put him on a plane headed to mississippi tomorrow as Ruth wants to buy him. Don

I'm not doubting the "wheaten influence" as the related cockerels do show the white you're talking about. I'm gathering that this is undesirable from your standpoint, but I'd still love an explanation as to why. Because the standard calls for black fluff rather than brown or because brown fluff is simply a symptom of a larger problem (in terms of the proposed American standard?) Are you suggesting that any Black Copper lines that produce wheatens should be avoided? Clearly this is a contentious subject! I'm pleased to hear opinions on both sides.
 
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The egg shows are something put on by the Marans clubs, not the host Poultry clubs. Don

I still think it should be something that occurs at all poultry shows, we have after all, canned goods and wool judging...why do more Fairs not pay any didilly squat to the egg ?
I feel it is almost as important as the bird itself.
I intend to petition my county fair to begin an egg class, it is also very educational for the general public to see what bird lays what egg.
So it is on my big to-do list for over this winter..
 
By the way, when did this thread become the "APA-slanted critique thread"?

I'd just like to know if this has officially become the ribbonhounding thread for Marans and perhaps I should just frequent the Dark Egg Breeds thread instead?

No offense to any ribbonhounds, I'm just trying to clarify the subculture of this thread.
 
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I think you just did.

I've been posting for two years that there's many, many people out there who don't give one twit about APA and will never show - they just want the really dark eggs, like the ones my birds produce that have now won two national APA shows. It's gotten to where "no bird is good enough" and I hate to see new people pretty much told that. Not everyone is out to win a blue ribbon and even if you do.....does the bird still lay a dark egg? And then what???? Finally, it will be good enough to sell eggs and offspring but until then, everyone else is selling "junk"?????

But what gets me the most is seeing new people, who are so excited about finally getting Marans, be told their birds should be culled.
 

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