Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

While we are talking about "mating shacks" I'd like to post what my DH came up with when I asked him to build me some pens
for selective mating. I thought what he came up with was excellent in terms of low maintenance and simple construction.
I'm all about selective and compensation breeding and see the value of identifying exactly which hen paired with which roo throws what.
My philosophy has been instead of throwing a whole bunch of birds together, hatching hundreds, just to get a few that are quality;
is to work on a smaller scale, working with only those that have no defects or serious faults and pair them to improve.
I think especially with Marans, this is one way to breed toward the standard in a cost effective way.

This "condo unit" is 5 pens that are 4' x 8' each built of 1/2" hardware cloth. We spent about 100. per pen (500. total), for materials, not including
running irrigation and auto waterers. The vinyl siding covering the back of the wire was left over from a job (DH is a builder/remodeler).
2" x 4" roosts run along the back. I'll likely just put rubbermaid tubs filled with shavings in for nests. Metal roof, sloping to the back. Large enough doors that I can
easily get inside, if need be. Chicken wire between each unit, each sharing a lil giant auto waterer, and I'll hang 3 lb feeders in each.

These may not work for those in colder areas, but here in FL we may have to remove some of the siding in the summer for air flow.
Additional siding could be added to the front for more weather protection.

My aim is to use these to house pairs, trios, or even quads for a limited time and to identify and mark each egg before incubating,
and to bag those eggs and band at birth; so I know who is throwing what.

We've run electric so I can also use them to brood chicks, or they will make great broody pens...

Just throwing this as an idea for "love shacks".

Excuse the ongoing construction:
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4 eggs laid from one of my BCM girls so far!
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#1 is in the incubator, #'s 2-4 are in this pic. #4 is the one on the left from today. The one in front is a BR egg, the center is a cream-colored bantam something-or-other egg. Please tell me what you think. They seem to be getting darker, the one from today certainly is darker than the other 2. Should they continue to get darker as she 'gets used to' laying? I've got 2 other BCM pullets that haven't started yet, they are 33-34 weeks old
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(bright flash on this one, sorry!)
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Shelly...nice eggs! I think some lay darkest at the beginning, others take a few weeks to get their groove on...depends on the hen.
After a month or so, it's a good time to evaluate shade IMO, and the ones that continue to lay a decent color longer may be the
better eggs to hatch than those who start off darker, but lighten more quickly, again IMO.

I see I'm not the only one who can't resist throwing new pullet eggs in the bator. I've found they hatch with no problems,
and while a bit smaller than chicks hatched from hens eggs...they catch up quickly. The genetics are there.

Congratulations on your first eggs!!
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I'm all about selective and compensation breeding and see the value of identifying exactly which hen paired with which roo throws what.
My philosophy has been instead of throwing a whole bunch of birds together, hatching hundreds, just to get a few that are quality;
is to work on a smaller scale, working with only those that have no defects or serious faults and pair them to improve.
I think especially with Marans, this is one way to breed toward the standard in a cost effective way.

I agree... this is how I use different roosters and different hens to make the products... I have divided my incubators as well. It works very well.. You don't have to use super correct birds as long as the birds compliment each other.. use birds that are correct cornformationally but the color balance can be waay off... Sometime you have to think several generations down if you have a bird trait that you can breed forward but adding the color or taking it away may take a generation or two with the birds on hand. House the hens together and the roos together with your egg crew (breakfast and then take the males out as needed and put with the hen/s of choice.

Warning... When you only breed a few hen 4 or less your hens can get a little raggidy...... A way to combat that is to keep a couple light egg layers with your breeding pair to pick up some of the sexual frustration slack.. Ppl on here have commented that my hens look a little "overworked"... This can help the overworked girls some.

Congrats: Shelly thanks for posting the pix of the eggs...this time of year it is nice to see a few eggies.​
 
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No, sorry I do not know. Just didn't want your question to be ignored.


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Sorry, I just breed for egg color, so I am of no help. They all look good to me!
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geebs is good with critiques. She must have just overlooked it.
 
Darth Egger... My feeling is that the verdict isn't in on the mossy question...

My theory is this... The black that colors the bird "blooms" on it... Sometime the bird is growing to fast for the black to cover it and then the striped mossy appearance shows up... On birds born black... Given enough time most mossy birds eventually turn black.. Though not all.... I think there is genetics that drive another color that gives a similar appearance but is not the same thing... I do think it is the melanisers at work coloring the bird and are found insufficient to color them during rates of growth... You will see the same trouble with the white wing feather.. It likely molts out as the bird gets it's color or the color "blooms" onto the feather...I have photographed this phenominon.... I don't know that I have ever seen a mossy that was overmelanised at maturity.

OSU man: I didn't overlook it... I read that you just got the bird and you were excited...I didn't want to defame your new "grab" by pointing out things that you will never be able to unsee once they are mentioned... I will give you a private critique if you like. Just PM me... I always love a new aquisition!!! Congratulations on the new arrival.
 
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You may need that age difference to take care of you in the future! Now, if I could find one twenty years younger, that had carpentry and plumbing skills, and wasn't a PIA to have around, well I'd be in seventh heaven!
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Don't know about "got it going on", more like just pluggin' along, but doing it my way, and loving it!
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WOW.... first time reading this thread that I thought about sex without Marans being involved! I kept waiting for the next reply!!!!


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WOW.... first time reading this thread that I thought about sex without Marans being involved! I kept waiting for the next reply!!!!


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Oh you boys!
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I PMed my last reply, back to the Chicken love stories...
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Morning all!!!!!!

Debbi~ The little coop turned out great! Nice Job!

Shelly~ Congrats on your lovely eggs!

MomMommy~ Many good hatching vibes coming your way......of course we need pictures of fuzzy butts!!
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Darth~ Could it be a little of both......lack of melanizers and possibly a trait at the same time? I personally think that it indicates something more than just a lack of melanizers. Just my opinion. But as geebs stated I have seen it cover up with black on some birds by time they have matured. I have also seen birds that will not grow out of it and in my experience they have been the birds that show too little copper in the hackles and very dark eyes.
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