Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

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Hi Ace!
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Are the 2 blue hens and splash hen solid or do they carry copper? If they are solid you can keep them with your BCM but the offspring may or may not show copper, some may have very little, some may be pretty correct (but not likely) and others will show 1 to a few feathers of copper in the hackle to none. If you are wanting to breed for coppers (blue, black, splash coppers) you would need to back cross the offspring that show copper back to the BCM. The second generation will give you some more correctly coppered birds, it can take a couple 2/3 generations to get the copper right and perhaps longer.
If you are wanting solid blue, black and splash birds it would be best in my opinion to work with a roo that has no copper or shows very very little. It is harder to breed the copper out then it is to breed it in, but remember that when copper parents are involved your offspring will have that copper gene hiding in there even if they do not show it.

The only thing you can do with that Birchen is send him to me...........................
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. (really I know nothing about Birchens but I know I think this blue birchen is pretty awesome!)

I do not have a BCM roo at this time. He had yellow legs and went to freezer camp.

I think what I am seeing as my option is to only put the Blue Birchen roo in with the Blue and Spalsh hens. They may carry copper but they do not show ANY. I inspected thouroughly
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What would I get by crossing this guy with the BSM hens I have in another pen? I am wondering if anything good can come from that?

I have some advice from Bev a while back but it does ot address the BCM and weather they can offer anything "good".

I wish I could help you out with the Birchen thing but I honestly know nothing about it. I do know that if he were mine that it would be fun to experiment with him because he is blue and we all know I see everything through blue colored chicken glasses
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....I think he is beautiful. I'm the type of person that would cross him with one of my culled Blue Copper Marans or a blue bird that I have just to see if I could get more pretty blues that lay a dark or darker egg that I could add to the laying flock just for pretty eggs.
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OoooO can you imagine the pretty blue olive eggers this guy could make..............I know, I know...I'm out of control!
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I do not have a BCM roo at this time. He had yellow legs and went to freezer camp.

I think what I am seeing as my option is to only put the Blue Birchen roo in with the Blue and Spalsh hens. They may carry copper but they do not show ANY. I inspected thouroughly
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What would I get by crossing this guy with the BSM hens I have in another pen? I am wondering if anything good can come from that?

I have some advice from Bev a while back but it does ot address the BCM and weather they can offer anything "good".

I wish I could help you out with the Birchen thing but I honestly know nothing about it. I do know that if he were mine that it would be fun to experiment with him because he is blue and we all know I see everything through blue colored chicken glasses
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....I think he is beautiful. I'm the type of person that would cross him with one of my culled Blue Copper Marans or a blue bird that I have just to see if I could get more pretty blues that lay a dark or darker egg that I could add to the laying flock just for pretty eggs.
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OoooO can you imagine the pretty blue olive eggers this guy could make..............I know, I know...I'm out of control!
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I myself am a blue addict. Blue cochins / Blue Lav ameraucanas / Blue Marans / Coronation Sussex...anything blue and blueish
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I love them all!!

I think he will be with the Blue & Splash girls to see if I can get a Blue birchen roo with no gold. Then I can work on Blue birchen
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I wish this "work" could move faster though!!!
 
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Don,
I am going to show my ignorance & go ahead an ask what this "single mating" you talk about is? I am assuming that it is when you put one particular rooster with one particular hen & keep good records on exactly what they produce together. There being no chance that any other birds were involved. Correct???????????? If not please explain.
Thanks
Karen in Turlock California
 
I thought I read somewhere that the regular silver/black birchen could go with pure black marans. So it seems like a blue birchen should go with pure blue marans... Hardly anyone seems to have any birchens so we never hear that much about what should be bred to what lol. I think yours is real pretty, aceschick, since it is a boy you sure could do lots of experimenting! I would love to have some birchens!

ETA: I read on the French Marans Club of Australia that birchens can come about from black copper crossing with silver cuckoos.
So, if you wanted to get the gold out you should use something silver based like BBS instead of something with copper.

Yes we need pics of the Ohio Nationals!
 
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Don,
I am going to show my ignorance & go ahead an ask what this "single mating" you talk about is? I am assuming that it is when you put one particular rooster with one particular hen & keep good records on exactly what they produce together. There being no chance that any other birds were involved. Correct???????????? If not please explain.
Thanks
Karen in Turlock California

Yep!
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