Marans Thread - breed discussion & pictures are welcome!

Responding to Marcy's inquiry about her Delaware cockerel. Off topic for just a moment.


Marcy~ I looked at your link. I really see nothing wrong with him.....his comb is not terrible, missing a point and having a small heavy twist or slight thumb mark is not a huge issue......his attitude is though.
How long has he been isolated?
Also.....he is at that age where he is nothing but one large hormone and not having any pullet to say....excerise his natural talents with may irritate him a bit more, so with out, it does not surprise me that they try and get away with flogging or some sort of aggresiveness at this age. So often folks are quick to cull young cockerels at this age because they believe it to be pure aggressiveness. If it is continued behavior that does not stop and they do it at everything and everyone....then yes it is aggressiveness and should be dealt with, if it is a one time thing or perhaps a 2x thing it very well could be hormones.


This is the age that I like to work with cockerels best..when they are froggy and feel like they have to jump. Riiiib-bit........riiiiib-bit little froggy.
smiley-taunt002.gif
Taunting the chicken, not you...LOL

If I have a boy like this.......this is when they are forced to trust me. If they don't get past their 'tudes here at this stage in the game, they are dinner. If they try jumping or flogging me 1 time they get the special humiliation treatment from me for about 2 weeks. If they feel so obliged to try jumping or flogging again they signed their own execution orders.

I am happy to say that I have only ever had 2 cockerels that ever got froggy with me.......one of them did not reform....the other is still living a happy healthy Welsummer lovin' life and will be 2.5 years old now. The lady that took him has her children in an out of the coops and chicken area and he has never tried a thing with her or the kids, or anyone. I carried this rooster around in a baby snuggie for 2 weeks as a portion of his humiliation treatment. Awe, the poor wittle baby! LOL!

I house excess cockerels together away from any of my breeding pens....away from everything for that matter. When I go down to do chores I pick a different cockerel each time I go in (unless one in particular needs the most attention then I work on him) and I pick him up and carry him around with me until I am done with chores. I talk to them like they are babies and stroke their heads, necks and bodies and lightly rub their combs and wattles. I get them used to me doing everything to them including a trip to "the attitude adjustment block" where I lay them down so they get a textile experience...."just because we feel it and touch it does not mean we should buy it"....is usually what I say to them. LOL!

Please understand that I am not saying all cockerels are going though hormonal changes and that is the blame.....some of them are just plain meanies and need to be dealt with. What I am saying is just don't be to quick to judge him if all it will take to calm him down again is a pullet or some behavior training.

Hi Pink, that you so much for your long and thoughtful reply. It isn't so off-topic, that information can be for any breed. I totally lose track of days, weeks, months...The Delaware started off in a big grow-out pen, then I had to do some rearranging, I moved him and a Blue Copper Marans of the same age into the 4'x4' condo pen, they were doing well together for a while, then the Marans started beating up on the Delaware, bloodied his comb pretty bad, so I had to separate them. The Marans was the one I posted pics of that had the copper color in his wing bay, he has since found freezer camp. I forget how long the Delaware has been by himself, and after the Marans left, I moved him back into that original pen, I am going to hazard a guess, 3 or 4 weeks.

I haven't had the time to really work with any of my birds. It is also very hot here right now, but I could try carrying the Delaware around like you say, maybe work with him inside out of the heat. I have so many birds right now, it is very hard--no, make that impossible, for me to give each individual attention. But it is getting better--I have 14 Black Copper and 2 Blue Copper Marans in holding cages as I type, wanting to be butchered while I take a calorie and caffeine break. I decided not to add the Delaware to the group
smile.png
That still leaves me with 11 Black Coppers and 3 Blues to grow and watch. I don't know if I will get a star out of this group of birds or not, it sure is costing me a pretty penny feeding them all. I have to take all the flour out of my freezer to make room for this batch---does anybody know if the flour weevil eggs will be killed from being in the freezer? I sure don't want them all hatching out after taking the flour out.

OK--break time over--got to get to those birds before the temp hits 100!
 
idunno.gif
Can Black copper marans chicks be black and copper at hatch? Or are they always black and white? Actually I'm not sure they were black copper, just Marans and dark eggs. My broody was/is sitting on some store bought Marans eggs (4) and a few of my mixed flock eggs. She has hatched out 2 chicks on day 18. One from a Marans egg and one from a green (EE) egg


It's feet are orangish and not feathered
Here is the other chick.
 
My BCM are always black and white tuxedos...??...

I'd say the first guy is the EE - just b/c the puffy cheeks!!

Did you mark the pure BCM eggs??? (or do you know what type of Marans eggs they are??)

I'd say the bottom chick is another cross, unless you have another color of Marans....

Good job, mommy broody!!
 
We don't get that hot or humid around here, but I will be keeping an eye on my broody this week...

Patricia

Patricia -- we can't be that far away. I'm on the north shore of Lake Erie, south east of London and I'm stressing like mad about the heat and humidity here - and VERY grateful I'm close to a lake and that my birds get outside. Even better, all my enclosures have LOADS of air circulation. Birds are panting like mad but coping so far. Funny, the Ameraucanas seem to suffer more than the Marans. The Silkies really scare me because they don't seem to "pant" like the big birds. All VERY stressful ....
hmm.png


hugs.gif
hugs being sent Cadeau's way.
 
Yes, I'm sure they are not breeder quality. I was just hatching them for fun. I don't have any Marans breeders near me that I know of. I love the color of their eggs but I really didn't expect any to hatch since they were not fresh and had been refrigerated plus shipped across the country and not packed as hatching eggs should be! So are there any Marans types that are supposed to be that color?
 
Yes, I'm sure they are not breeder quality. I was just hatching them for fun. I don't have any Marans breeders near me that I know of. I love the color of their eggs but I really didn't expect any to hatch since they were not fresh and had been refrigerated plus shipped across the country and not packed as hatching eggs should be! So are there any Marans types that are supposed to be that color?
Hi,
Yes. That second chick is carrying the e+ locus.That's wildtype or "Golden Salmon". It does appear occasionally from a Black Copper egg. Do you have a full body picture of the second chick? Loving the arrowhead on the top of his head, very e+. Need to see the chipmunk stripes on its back. Then I can tell you how much e+ the chick is carrying.
Thanks,
Karen in western PA.
 
Last edited:
Can anyone tell me if a black copper Marans pullet has to have copper feather on her head or neck? I have 2 beautiful 13 week pullets who have a beautiful greenish purple sheen in the sunlight and dark black tiny combs. I panicked when I saw the sheen to their feathers, but nothing else about them looks remotely like a roo. I know they came from dark brown eggs.

Thanks!!
 

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom