Marans Thread for Posting Pics of Your Eggs, Chicks and Chickens

[geebs]

They are not a cross... You have not been "duped". The extra ginger headed will carry a lot of red, however if you end up with a too black cockerel and the gingerheaded ones are hens you may still have something to work with... It is true that the too red of a head usually is much too red in a cockerel to be much use... I wouldn't cull till I know what I am working with... Again... Not a cross.... Just a really unbalanced red scale in the bird...Not enough melanizing gene.

 

[snowbird]

I still stand by my statement that if the BC chicks have brown colored heads they will more than likely be junk when they feather out. I still say they have been crossed down the line with something besides Marans. Why is it that everyboby runs to protect the big breeders when something like this happens. This could be something added to the BC years ago.


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[geebs]

If that were the case the egg color would suffer... The crossing ruins good egg color for up to 4 generations... It is an incorrect red balance caused by using a too red roo and hen together... Lack of the melanizing gene. Believe what you want... I am defending no one. I have hatched and raised enough of them to understand the nuances of the color balance and I am sharing this information with the interested parties. The balance is delicate and the oposite of that balance is an all black marans from BC copper parents. It is an innate part of the birds genetics. I would hate for someone to rely on your experience as the only one to base a culling decision as it is not a shared idea or experience on my part. I am interested to hear what you think the cross is and to hear more of your experience regarding the ginger headed ones. I have birds that are 5 generations bred in a closed flock and I still get a ginger one once in a while...

Blackdotte can you shed light on this for us???? (please correct me if I a have a misunderstanding I would greatly appreciate your input )

The BC started out as different birds entirely and had a lot of crosses including Langshan to even get to be the Marans that we know today... Of couse they are a makeup of different birds... However, the birds in the US throw red heads of some of the lines we have....That does not nessarily mean that any new blood has been introduced since England etc...

I do agree that some breeders in the US did in fact breed to Penedesenca and other breeds with the dark egg gene...It has happened no doubt...I simply saying that the presence of the red head may not lead us to just the one conclusion. But that is a good point snowbird The proof shows up in other traits beside color.... We could have a whole nuther forum for that!!

 

[drom]

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I don't think anyone seriously answered your question.

I am not exactly sure. I have always assumed that phonetically it is something like 'mareanne'
The 'a' vowel sound in the second syllable is a closed 'a' vowel sound, not the open 'a' vowel with the ah pronunciation
The accent is on the second syllable
The s at the end is silent

But I am not entirely certain

 

[geebs]

Drom: Whoops.... busted... okay...

I copied this off an old thread..

The correct pronunciation of the word Marans is Ma rans, if your French it would sound like Mair awns with the s silent.

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Sugarhillfarm: congrats on the new black hen!!!!

 

[kathyinmo]

I do not know the accepted or correct pronunciation, but around here we call them mare uns. I also read someone say, Mah RANZ.

 

[pinkchick]

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I have heard it pronounced both ways and also heard Marr-annes. To be very honest with everyone I say Ma-RANZ and always with and "S" at the end but was recently corrected by my daughters high school french teacher, who stated that it is pronounced Mare-uns, but when asked if she knew of Marans France she had no clue.

 

[Quail_Antwerp]

I appreciate the comments from both sides of things.

I am still fairly new to Marans, not a big breeder by any means, and these are the first chicks I've really raised beyond a few days. These are also the first ones I've ever seen with the coppery red color to their heads.

I will see about taking some pictures of them today. Not all of them have the coppery red heads, but it does look like all of them have rusty red coloring to their wings. I think if I post pics of them, that might help.

Thanks to both of your for your feedback. You've both given me a lot to think about.

 

[marquisella]

I have french friend from the Marans part of France and he pronounces it mah rawn (the a is a short a, ah, not A as in abc). At least thats how it sounds to me, s is silent & the rawn part is nasely sounding.

Sue

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I have heard it pronounced both ways and also heard Marr-annes. To be very honest with everyone I say Ma-RANZ and always with and "S" at the end but was recently corrected by my daughters high school french teacher, who stated that it is pronounced Mare-uns, but when asked if she knew of Marans France she had no clue.

 

[snowbird]

Geebs, I am sure that you are much more knowledgeable on Marans than I am. I repeat if you are raising Marans BC to eventually show them in an APA show do not breed the chicks that have the brown Down when hatched as they will off color. I will say this these chicks will normally lay a darker egg when mature. Will leave the comments up to you experts and go back to just reading the posts.



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