Marans Thread for Posting Pics of Your Eggs, Chicks and Chickens

[amazondoc]

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Yup, that's what I posted the first time. Thanks for digging it out!

 

[ruth]

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That is not quite true, Ruth. You have said yourself -- Jesse actually got the hens from *Kelvin*, not Wade -- and he got the roosters from a third party, who is *supposed* to have gotten them from Wade. As we all know, "supposed to" and reality is not always the same thing. And then there was some gossip about Jesse adding other hens later, but I don't know anything about that part.

That is NOT to say anything bad about your birds. They may be the best birds in the country -- I dunno. But it's a good idea to keep historical details as accurate as we can!

I grow really tired of your constant "corrections". I'm not sure why you can't move on. The birds that came from Kelvin, came originally from his brother Wade. As you pointed out in an earlier post, Kelvin never bred Marans at all. The birds that came from the other two men also came originally from Wade. I've spoken to all three men and everyone verifies the same story - every bird came from Wade. Those are historical, accurate FACTS.

The "gossip" part is that Wade and Channing smuggled the eggs into the country because they worked at Customs at the airport and were able to do so (or some similar story - that part can't be verified).

But, in any event, it was Wade who got the first eggs/birds from France and my flock all came from him one way or the other. So please stop quoting "gossip" about Jesse or my flock and stop correcting everything I post about Marans.

 

[verycherry]

The way I understand it, these faults are pretty much par for the course if you breed feather legged breeds, but if birds with these defects are used for breeding the number of causes will increase, so they should NEVER be bred.

I'd like to see a picture of a Marans chick with fused toes if any of you here happen to have taken one.

Unfortunately I've hatched one chick with brachydactyly, shortened toes........only his outside toes are affected.

Here's his chick pic.......and don't worry, he's a cull. I'm keeping him for now just to watch how his color pattern turns out, amoung other things like comb, leg feathering, etc... but a friend of mine is getting him for her free range flock in the Spring.

 

[Germaine_11.20]

I totally agree that they shouldn't be bred. They may pop up now and then but shouldn't be used as breeding stock.

 

[Germaine_11.20]

VeryCherry I do have a couple pics of it. I did operate on the feet because it could only hobble. It is doing well, getting around fine, no infection and only a slightly crooked toe.

 

[amazondoc]

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I will never "move on" from trying to maintain historical accuracy, Ruth.

The birds that came from Kelvin, came originally from his brother Wade.

Right. Jesse did not buy them from Wade, he bought them from Kelvin.

The birds that came from the other two men also came originally from Wade. I've spoken to all three men and everyone verifies the same story - every bird came from Wade.

Great. The last time I saw you post about these birds, you didn't even know the name of the guy Jesse got them from. It's great that you've been able to get more info now. And once again, Jesse did not buy the birds from Wade.

Why is this important? I'll tell ya -- it's important because every time a flock of birds changes hands, it's less possible to be absolutely sure about their bloodlines. It's very easy for a rooster to jump a fence, or for an extra hen to be bought, and so on. Unless you yourself purchase a bird or an egg straight from a breeder, it's impossible to know with absolutely surety exactly what DNA is in there.

For instance -- I myself have a group of Marans whose ancestors were *supposed* to have been imported from France about 5 years ago, by Lynne Flournoy. *Supposedly* they have had no outside stock added to them, and *supposedly* they have been through only one owner between Lynne and me. But I do not and will not be selling them as "pure French blood" or anything like that, because I can not prove their origins with any assurance. And I did not buy them because of their supposed origins, but because of their appearance and their dark eggs. It's important to be sure about these things before making claims about them!

So please stop quoting "gossip" about Jesse or my flock and stop correcting everything I post about Marans.

I'm only "quoting" your own words, Ruth. If you don't want to see corrections, then try to keep your own facts straight.​

 

[Germaine_11.20]

Hey it wasn't until I posted that I saw 5 toes on that last pic. What is up with that. And OOPS I guess I must have cut off one of those toes because I just checked the chick and there are only 4 on each foot now...

 

[kathyinmo]

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My question is .... If toe fusion and short toes are genetically linked to feathered legs ..... then, it wouldn't matter which line they come from, correct?

I have black copper marans that are from the Wade Jeane line. My supplier has only this line, and has never added any other line. I toured the facility and saw them. He purchased his original flock directly from Wade Jeane. I am going to ask him if he has ever seen this, as I am now quite curious about it. Meaning ... is it genetics (linked to feathered legs), or is it only in certain lines. Hhmmmm, interesting.

 

[Reinbeau]

Ladies, stop the bickering or this thread will be closed.

 

[verycherry]

Rustyswoman, I'm happy he healed ok and is doing well. That's so odd about the fifth toe! It may have fallen off or rotted off after you made the cut, and before it was completely healed. You probably did him a favor, now the other chicks won't make fun of him, lol!