MARANS: what are crosses (like CM x BCM = BCM color) called?

[Buck Creek Chickens]

this is a little off topic but if both the hen and roo of this cross lay dark eggs/from a dark egg, the crossed hens should lay dark right, the genes are there.

 

[blackdotte]

What might I get and would they be considered "pure" if both parents are different colors?

Look at it this way, both Japanese & Lebanese are Asians. If they produced a child it would be Asian, but neither Japanese or Lebanese.
David​

 

[Peeper7]

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My roos don't lay eggs...

I would think the best chances of getting dark eggs would be matings from dark-egged chicks. My question is kinda still out there....put another way:
if my BCM roo and cuckooM hen lay dark eggs from which hatch cuckoo color. Do I rightfully call them cuckoo marans? Or would that cross produce NEITHER cuckoo marans or BCM?
Does the phenotype name the chicken?
How do I know if my cuckoos came from non-like colors?
I'm sorry if I am misunderstanding someone and the answer is NEITHER according to the chicken chart.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

with chickens, pedigrees are hard to say, because what you are looking for is standard confirmation, not just feather color, your looking for size, shape, egg color, comb, leg color, beek color, and what ever else i forgot and sometime you have to cross to get it, plus where did the BCM color come from? it had to be a cross

 

[Peeper7]

I would think all marans as a breed would be conforming to the same standards regardless of the color. I guess in that case they would be classified by the color.


So that would answer my original question..... Am I way off here?

marans x marans = marans ??

I have been a breeder of many animals...but never chickens.

 

[Buck Creek Chickens]

if the color is right and the confirmation than you have that variety/color, cuckoo X Black Copper = Maren

 

[Peeper7]

I think I've got it....thanks so much!

 

[alicefelldown]

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Look at it this way, both Japanese & Lebanese are Asians. If they produced a child it would be Asian, but neither Japanese or Lebanese.
David

I'm not sure this is the best analogy. Japanese are East Asians and Lebanese are Arabic. The Republic of Lebanon is a country in Middle East, on the eastern shore of the Mediterranean Sea.

 

[Peeper7]

I think the point was clear despite the geography...but thanks. I do like the map

really

 

[alicefelldown]

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Your cross of Cuckoo and Black Copper would produce birds that are neither BCM or Cuckoo. If you sold them as Cuckoo without acknowledging the BCM in their heritage, I would consider that ethically dubious. They would still genetically be 'Marans' but would not comply with any of the proposed (in USA) or the current standards in Europe.