marek's vaccination?

[Keene's coop]

i'mbuying my chicks from MPC and it inly $1.00 per chick. so i think i'm gonna do it just in case. thanks

 

[snowflake]

I get my chicks from McMurrys and the vaccination for Mareks and Coccidiosis are given for 15cents ea. and they say not to feed medicated feed

 

[bethinoklahoma]

????
I thought I had Mareks when I had a chicken with a broken leg. Broke my heart.
I cleaned like a crazy women. I didnt want my flock to have this problem or my
yard. I felt so bad that I was this cheap... So I paid the $$ and went to the vet.
It was the leg and the girl their took the chicken home to keep. Long story i know
but for the $0.15 cents a bird I could have had a BIG problem. $1.00 is alot but if
you have a loved flock you keep them safe. You keep the bobcats out, hawks away,
shots given.

 

[bethinoklahoma]

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The ??? is I was not told that and Im not sure I saw that on their site...
Now I dont know what to feed...

 

[cocianna]

If you vaccinate for Coccidiosis then you don't feed the medicated feed. If you vaccinate for just the Mareks, then you would feed the medicated feed unless you are going organic. I talked to one of the head vets at Purdue & she said to always get them vaccinated for Mereks. This is what I've always been told & done. Hope this helps.

 

[Chris09]

If you vaccinate for Coccidiosis then you don't feed the medicated feed. If you vaccinate for just the Mareks, then you would feed the medicated feed unless you are going organic. I talked to one of the head vets at Purdue & she said to always get them vaccinated for Mereks. This is what I've always been told & done. Hope this helps.

Technically you if you give the Mareks vac. then you are not "organic" and should not be called "organic".

Chris​

 

[Ridgerunner]

Marek's and Cocci vaccinations ae totally different things. They are not related. If you get the cocci vaccination, do not feed the medicated feed. If you get the Marek's vaccination, it does not matter if you feed the medicated feed, unless you also get the cocci vaccination, of course.

The vaccine they use for Marek's is Turkey Marek's. It does not prevent chickens from getting chicken Marek's but it does prevent the lesions that chicken Marek's causes. The lesions are what causes the problems. Chickens that have been vaccinated with turkey Marek's can still get chicken Marek's and can give chicken Marek's to other chickens. Vaccinating them with Turkey Marek's does not mean that they have chicken Marek's but it means you don't know if they have chicken Marek's or not.

There are seven different protazoa that can cause Coccidiosis. If a chick gets immunity against one, it does not automatically have immunity against the other six. The vaccination that McMurray was using last year protected against three of the seven. I don't know what they are using this year. For the chick to develop immunity after the vaccination, it has to go through a few cycles of the protazoa reproducing in its intestines, the eggs coming out with the poop, the eggs developing in slightly moist poop for a day or two, then going back through the chicks system when it eats some of its poop. If you feed medicated feed or give the chick antibiotics while it is developing this immunity you negate the effects of the vaccination. I believe it takes two weeks of this cycling before the chick develops the immunity.

Different "organic" certifying organizations have different rules and requirements. If you are planning on becoming certified organic, i suggest you talk to the organization that will certify you and see what their specific rules are. I don't know about vaccinations specifically buit at least some certifying organizations do not consider feed medicated with Amprolium to be a problem with certification. Amprolium is not an antibiotic. Amprolium is often the "medicated" in medicated feed.

 

[Neil Grassbaugh]

Technically you if you give the Mareks vac. then you are not "organic" and should not be called "organic".

Chris

Which one of the law givers laid down this rule?

I would be most interested in reading the rule/law that prohibits misleading consumers by promoting the sales of products from MD vaccinated birds as "organic".​

 

[Neil Grassbaugh]

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Entirely wrong. Stop reading such crap. If you want to educate yourself about this read that which is offered by people with Dr.or Professor in front of their name.

Someone who's qualifications are listed as "organic mommie to two Buff Orfington girls and a frizzled naked neck serama roo" wrote it on the internet does not make it fact.

 

[Chris09]

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Which one of the law givers laid down this rule?

I would be most interested in reading the rule/law that prohibits misleading consumers by promoting the sales of products from MD vaccinated birds as "organic".

Neil,
Did I say that wrong or am I just wrong? I would think that if someone would Vac. a bird that it would no longer be a "organic" bird..

I am by no means organic nor to I clam to be but I have some knowledge about it..

Chris