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I was thinking about this topic when I was in the barn earlier. We've had leghorns in the past that always developed that brassy color which I assumed was from dust bathing, but remembered somebody who raised show birds telling me that was from feeding corn.

It seem the same things that darken the yolks can also tint the feathers of white birds; corn, marigold, cottonseed meal. I also ran across a reference to high amounts of iron in the water possibly causing brassy feathers.
 
There is an old saying that goes like this "the proof is in the pudding" and since chickens cannot talk (like we do) we can only reliably go by how they act and produce and anyone knows it takes very little things to upset a hens laying cycle and hands down commercial caged hens out produce, eat the best food and have central heating and the cruelty they are supposed to be receiving by living in the conditions they are in is all relative to the person viewing them. Unhappy hens do not lay that is a fact and only when we as humans force our idea of happiness on them do we get such a conflicting array of opinions on what cruelty really is. What the workers were doing was in fact cruel. If you want to know what cruel is think of how little roosters get treated in layer breeds.
 
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Hey TDM that Mobile hen house looks cool
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Wish I did, I am a rooster of the human breed and can relate to the poor fellas. Allowing roosters in the city would help.
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Do you have a workable, possible solution? I'm honestly at a loss for one.​
 
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Do you have a workable, possible solution? I'm honestly at a loss for one.


That would only represent a small fraction of the sales of hatched chicks. BYCers and small operations account for a fraction of hatched chick sales. The commercial folks hatch out hundreds of millions of pullets for the egg industry and zero roosters are needed and wanted. In a magical kingdom, one could wave a wand and force the world back to dual purpose birds and the resultant starvation from high food costs would be appalling.

Euthanizing the hatched roos is a fact of life. One can debate how best to do the deed, but not doing it to billions of hatched roos simply isn't an option.
 
I agree, I actually have a small market for the roosters but gassing them is the best thing and is painless.I was actually just facetiously pointing out the fact that we all contribute to some form of cruelty in someones' eyes, we are all contributing to it.
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That would only represent a small fraction of the sales of hatched chicks. BYCers and small operations account for a fraction of hatched chick sales. The commercial folks hatch out hundreds of millions of pullets for the egg industry and zero roosters are needed and wanted. In a magical kingdom, one could wave a wand and force the world back to dual purpose birds and the resultant starvation from high food costs would be appalling.

Euthanizing the hatched roos is a fact of life. One can debate how best to do the deed, but not doing it to billions of hatched roos simply isn't an option.​
 
Does it really matter if we dispatch that male chick at 1 day old, or raise it to 4, 8, 16, or 20 weeks old to be dispatched and eaten?

What is it about this practice that folks find so cruel? The methods used, or the fact that it is done to begin with? Is it the fact that we are wasting a perfectly good chick rather than making it more useful to us or that we are killing cute and fluffy creatures?

I tend to think it's the latter, and that people's objection to this practice is all based on emotion rather than any sort of reasoning.
 
And if you think you can save all the males chicks from their death after hatching, good luck! The market shows that we as consumers buy pullets only and we are doing something about it by ending the future problems with male chicks.

As for the ground up chicks, I am sure it is being processed for animal food for the lions or zoo animals. Heck, if I know I had male chicks and male chickens, I woudl send them to the zoo to the lions, tigers, oh my! Been there and done it!
I agree with Mac with his last sentence "I tend to think it's the latter, and that people's objection to this practice is all based on emotion rather than any sort of reasoning." How true that was!
 

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