McMurray Hatchery chicks

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

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You been there and know for sure they do not have pure bred's? To be on the safe side tough I myself would call them Easter Eggers if I had their's.. Just saying, you cna't go around saying they don't have pure bred Ameraucana's if you've never been there and seen their stock.

Their description tells me they are not purebred. The bird does not meet the standard for an Ameraucana;

Ameraucana large fowl are in the APA “All Other Standard Breeds” (AOSB) class of chickens. They were admitted to the Standard in 1984. Ameraucana is a general purpose fowl and has a distinctive blue eggshell coloration.

If it doesn't meet the standard, for example in this case in their description they use "multicolored, and green egg", that means they are NOT pure Ameraucanas.​

 

[draye]

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You been there and know for sure they do not have pure bred's? To be on the safe side tough I myself would call them Easter Eggers if I had their's.. Just saying, you cna't go around saying they don't have pure bred Ameraucana's if you've never been there and seen their stock.

Their description tells me they are not purebred. The bird does not meet the standard for an Ameraucana;

Ameraucana large fowl are in the APA “All Other Standard Breeds” (AOSB) class of chickens. They were admitted to the Standard in 1984. Ameraucana is a general purpose fowl and has a distinctive blue eggshell coloration.

If it doesn't meet the standard, for example in this case in their description they use "multicolored, and green egg", that means they are NOT pure Ameraucanas.​

Is that so, then I think you need to go and read on the Ameraucana thread, they are getting some funky stuff from theirs too, so I guessthat makes them Easter Eggers too, then.

 

[ARose4Heaven]

I personally have no problem with McMurray. I just got an order of 102 Brown egg layer assortment. As with any hatchery, you aren't likely to get "show" quality birds, and sometimes they aren't true to breed. Since this was my first order from McMurray, I can only base my opinion on this one experience. The birds arrived early, in good health and as expected. I have heard of other people whose shipments were delayed at the post office, thus losing most of the birds. McMurray has always been faithful to either replace the lost birds or give credit for them. For my needs, customer service far exceeds any requirements of breed perfection.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

That's why I used a few examples... multicolored birds with green eggs... not Ameraucanas.


Besides I don't see why the debate... it says RIGHT ON THEIR SITE

known as the "Easter Egg Breed"

Hatcheries just don't have pure Ameraucanas.​

 

[draye]

You're right this is not a debate.

 

[Illia]

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Being an Ameraucana breeder who as a part of those discussions on "funky stuff" I can tell you right now, they're nothing like what Easter Eggers have. We don't have weird columbian genes coming up, we don't have BBR colors, we don't have GREEN and YELLOW legs, we don't have breedings that just go here and there and everywhere, we don't have constant brown and olive green eggs, . . .

Missing the beard/muffs genes is something a breeder can make a mistake in, then not bother to fix it and it passes along through the bloodlines, like in BBS Ameraucanas. That makes a serious fault when clean faced birds pop up, yes, but the rest of the Ameraucana fits entirely, and we still actually work on breeding the problem out.

Also, McMurray claims to sell "Araucanas" - There is NO debate that those are similar or the same as Easter Eggers. I am fine with people confusing Ameraucanas with them, because yes, to the untrained eye they seem the same, but come'on, . . . Araucanas? The sad part is that a lot of people don't read the fine print, which yes, McMurray does later call them "Easter Egg" chickens, but people don't read and take note of that. . . I see people saying they have Araucanas left and right. Golly, do they ever look up what Araucanas ARE?


Well, anyway, this thread is about their Easter Eggers, not EE vs Ameraucana, so, sorry for also hijacking the topic.

And as another note, I don't mean to be offensive or rude, I'm just stating a point. . . Research something, don't just jump and and believe everything your seller says, especially a huge business.

 

[EweSheep]

If a hatchery or mis-informed breeder puts an "I" in the Americana or spelled something similar to it, you can be very sure it is an EE.

When certain color is desired like for example, Lavender, is used to cross with Ameraucanas, the F1 cross would be an EE however a good breeder would select the best of color, then comb and proper coloring of leg colors, then the rest of the generations to come, working and culling the colors, standards and so forth, and they see consisency in the color and standard, and the egg shell color is correctly blue or blue greenish shade, then they can call it Lavender Ameraucanas but it has to be accepted in the APA first before it would be recognized. The EE traits has been bred out, eliminating the green or olive or other colors besides blue, yellow, pink and brown, as well as the combs and leg colors. Consisency is the key. Chickhatchery.com does this and as to date, Lavender is not accepted by the ABC or the APA yet. I forsee acceptance of Lavenders pretty soon, within five years if any sooner.