Medical Mystery, can you help solve?

[krisandken]

Do you have a suggestion of worming medication?

 

[Michael Apple]

Do you have a suggestion of worming medication?

Valbazen at .5 cc given orally with a syringe (no needle). I'd be looking in his ears and feeling his crop. Sometimes they move their head in that manner if the crop is backed up or something is stuck in the esophagus/trachea. He is doing it often in that video. Capillary worms can prefer the crop or the esophagus, when they embed themselves in the mucosa.

 

[Eggcessive]

I agree with Valbazen for worms. One dose of 1/2 ml and repeat it in 10 days, and it will get even the more rare or hard to kill worms that Michael was speaking about. SafeGuard Liquid Goat wormer is good, but 3-5 doses is needed for capillary worms. You may find the Valbazen locally at a decent price, but here are 2 good prices, although the more expensive one has the best deal with $5 shipping. The first link is for a smaller amount for less money:
http://www.wholesalekennel.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22_24&products_id=29
http://www.kvsupply.com/valbazen-su...3&cadevice=c&gclid=CMuz26n91cICFUEV7AodZE4Avg

 

[Nambroth]

I have not experienced this type of behavior with Marek's, but Marek's is such a confusing disease that I surely haven't "seen it all"!!

I would also advise worming and then approaching this as a neurological problem. Supplementation similar to that given to wry-neck birds seems appropriate. When one of mine seems to be having any sort of nerve damage I also like to increase B-complex and I use a little cold-pressed coconut oil to aid in uptake.

Have you ever had any other strange symptoms in your other birds in the last year or two?

 

[krisandken]

I'll look for Valbazen, and if I can't find it locally, I'll order it online. Thanks to both for the advice. It sounds like I give it to them straight, not diluted?

 

[Michael Apple]

I'll look for Valbazen, and if I can't find it locally, I'll order it online. Thanks to both for the advice. It sounds like I give it to them straight, not diluted?

Yes. Don't dilute it. If you don't have it already, get some good poultry vitamin-electrolyte dispersible powder, and Probios dispersible powder if probiotics aren't already included in the vitamin mix. It is always a good idea to supplement after medicating, during moult, weather stress, etc.

 

[seminolewind]

I have not experienced this type of behavior with Marek's, but Marek's is such a confusing disease that I surely haven't "seen it all"!!

I would also advise worming and then approaching this as a neurological problem. Supplementation similar to that given to wry-neck birds seems appropriate. When one of mine seems to be having any sort of nerve damage I also like to increase B-complex and I use a little cold-pressed coconut oil to aid in uptake.

Have you ever had any other strange symptoms in your other birds in the last year or two?

I can say that I thought my silkie hen was dying of some neuro or Marek's thing and it turned out to be worms that were killing her. So I could be kindof sensitive to that.

 

[krisandken]

I'll go to the feed store today and look for Valbazen while continuing with the vitamins for Crook Neck. If I don't see improvement, I may try low dose Prednisone which I happen to have on hand. I've read in the forums some have had success with that but I understand it must be used very carefully.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: He's a Buff Orpington and might way as much as 10 pounds, wouldn't one want to give one this size 0.8ml (4/5 cc)?

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

If you can't find Valbazen locally, and don't want to order it, you can get Safeguard liquid for goats *or* paste fpr horses. The most effective dose when using Safeguard for treating capillary worms is 0.23ml per *pound* for five consecutive days. So if he weighs 10 pounds, that's 2.3ml orally five days in a row.

Ignore the instructions on the bottle or tube, they're not for chickens, and chickens get way more per pound than goats, horses, cattle and sheep.

-Kathy