Meds being taken off the shelf in 2017

[casportpony]

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Source: http://www.beefcattleinstitute.org/changes-antibiotics-regulations/

 

[TherryChicken]

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[Garden Peas]

I can see why. That's why I'm just thinking about going with the link I had, said if it's an antibiotic that is injected it stays. If it's not an injection it will require a vet. Can't wait to be a vet now.

Sadly, that's a simple solution, but not necessarily a good one... liable to lead you to some wrong conclusions. Don't focus on the injection part. Think about what the meds actually are (read up on classes of drugs and how they work/what they treat) and you will have a much clearer grasp of the whats and whys of this. You're going to need to know later on, so might as well work on building the foundational knowledge now . (If it makes you feel any better, I tell my son the same sort of thing )

An interesting angle on this (and painful one) is that some drugs are simply no longer available for poultry. Even the vet cannot prescribe. For example, baytril is not supposed to be prescribed for poultry, period. So in some ways, vets' hands are being tied also. And for commercial poultry, seems like a common solution is to purge the flock, sanitize everything and start over. In some ways that makes sense from a commercial and health perspective, but it's for sure not what us pea-people with pampered pets and 20 year life-expectancies wanna hear about our often hard-to-come-by breeding stock!!!

 

[Birdrain92]

Sadly, that's a simple solution, but not necessarily a good one... liable to lead you to some wrong conclusions. Don't focus on the injection part. Think about what the meds actually are (read up on classes of drugs and how they work/what they treat) and you will have a much clearer grasp of the whats and whys of this. You're going to need to know later on, so might as well work on building the foundational knowledge now

. (If it makes you feel any better, I tell my son the same sort of thing

)

An interesting angle on this (and painful one) is that some drugs are simply no longer available for poultry. Even the vet cannot prescribe. For example, baytril is not supposed to be prescribed for poultry, period. So in some ways, vets' hands are being tied also. And for commercial poultry, seems like a common solution is to purge the flock, sanitize everything and start over. In some ways that makes sense from a commercial and health perspective, but it's for sure not what us pea-people with pampered pets and 20 year life-expectancies wanna hear about our often hard-to-come-by breeding stock!!!

It is good advice. Might as well learn it now then later, try and get ahead of everyone else. There are other things we use that are not meant for use in poultry but they're the best we got. Safeguard is one example. We use it because it's one of the best wormers and Wazine is not that great.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: One should also learn what "off label" use means. Wazine is the only wormer approved by the FDA for use in non egg producing poultry, but Safeguard, ivermectin, albendazole, etc. can be used under the guidance of a veterinarian. There are also banned drugs. Some are banned for use in all food animals, some are banned in just dairy cattle, and some are banned for use in all poultry.


-Kathy

 

[Birdrain92]

I'm not surprised. I'm not sure how well this my search on classes of antibiotics is going but I read some antibiotics will kill the bacteria, other antibiotics will only prevent the bacteria from dividing, which eventually kills it when the bacteria gets old and dies. I'm guessing there's more than that about antibiotics.

 

[casportpony]

I'm not surprised. I'm not sure how well this my search on classes of antibiotics is going but I read some antibiotics will kill the bacteria, other antibiotics will only prevent the bacteria from dividing, which eventually kills it when the bacteria gets old and dies. I'm guessing there's more than that about antibiotics.

bactericidal vs. bacteriostatic
gram negative vs gram positive
broad spectrum vs narrow spectrum

-Kathy

 

[Birdrain92]

bactericidal vs. bacteriostatic
gram negative vs gram positive
broad spectrum vs narrow spectrum

-Kathy

Those are the words I saw. The gram negative and gram positive I need to research. Broad spectrum vs narrow spectrum my guess is the type of antibiotic.

 

[casportpony]

Quote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tylosin

-Kathy

 

[Garden Peas]

Hmmm, where to start?

Do you get the difference between viruses and bacteria? And between bacteria and parasites? And protozoa?

Then you can look at different kinds of bacteria...

We'll all be in grad school with you before any of us know it

Meanwhile, I'm having to learn all the nuances of Lyme disease because it turns out that's a big part of what's been ailing my dog . That's a headache, let me tell you!!!