Mental Health... trying to sort this out...

[cackydoodledoo]

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That is the problem. My ex and I don't agree on how to handle this. That is why my son feels he can say and do what he does to me. The little bit I have tried to talk to him about this he says "Well dad doesn't have a problem with it anymore."

Then I suggest that if his dad doesn't have a problem with it then let dad deal with him and his antics. He is manipulating you and will until you put a stop to it!! If dad wants to be manipulated then by all means let him. This is a toxic relationship and is just going to continue hurting you. Your son is not going to change his ways unless he wants to. Nothing you say or do can make him. He has to make the decision to change for the better and if that includes getting help then he needs to decide that too. Having him committed or forced into a mental facility is not going to help him one bit if he doesn't want to be there and doesn't want the help. I would only recommend this if he truly is a danger to himself or others. I hope you can find some peace in this situation!

 

[PineappleMama]

Normally I try my level best to NOT blow a gasket no matter the abuse heaped on my head by Mom and Sis, but now and then I just can't stop from speaking up... and then I have a month or more of worry that they'll retaliate by calling CPS and making up a bunch of bunk just to make life difficult for me... yes, yes they have done that sort of thing though not to us as yet... and no, no they don't seem to have the least bit of concern for the children who have to go through the interrogation, being yanked from their home, etc.

Both my mom and sis have been diagnosed as Bi Polar, and both have addiction issues. With mom it's booze, with sis it's meth. But even without either of those things added to the fray just going off their meds (because they get sick of 'flatlining' and enjoy the highs and figure they'll be just fine and can start taking the meds when the 'down' hits but of course they don't know when it'll hit much less two weeks in advance so the med can be fully in their system again in time to counter the depression) is a nightmare that can result in aggressive, hateful, downright vicious behavior all the way to suicidal depression.

Donno if that's the case with yours, AT ALL, but the spitefulness, the moodiness... sounds so dern familiar. But I can tell you from 31 years experience with mom and 25 with sis that no one can force them to get help or to stay on it. Only chance of that happening is if they're locked up and they have to exhibit SEVERE self (or others) destructive behavior and have it documented by police and/or medical records... and then there's often still a very large fight because the hospitals are filled to the max, expensive, and they can always walk out AMA, Against Medical Advice. *sigh* I really really hope that yours doesn't have BP/Addiction... it's a horrific thing to live with.

 

[welsummerchicks]

Nothing she described suggested bipolar, though as I said there may be many more symptoms she never sees.

And it's probably not any consolation, it may be the reverse...but I do know some very nice people who have bipolar. Not even in their worst periods are they 'mean'. A guy in our boarding house had bipolar and during his worse manic states, he stayed up for several days cleaning the house. Until it got to day 2, everyone but me just kept saying, 'thanks for doing my chores!'

I think it really just depends on what part of the brain is damaged and how much, some of it may even be innate personality, and if there is an addiction problem as well....

Years ago I mentioned to the doctor that one of the schizophrenic people we worked with was extremely manipulative and nasty.

She shrugged and said, 'That's his personality'.

 

[KlaHaYa Gardens]

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Sorry, welsummerchicks, this is where I step up and say:


1) We are "anonymous posters" without medical degrees specializing in psychiatry. It is really inappropriate to "diagnose" or "rule out" diseases on-line.

2) If anyone here does have a medical degree specializing in psychiatry or is otherwise a mental health professional, they would NEVER, in keeping with their ethics, diagnose or suggest treatment in this on-line forum.

3) When people begin to "diagnose" or "rule out" conditions of others, it borders on practicing without a license.


Please, be cautious and wise when replying to this type of issue.

 

[satay]

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Sorry, welsummerchicks, this is where I step up and say:


1) We are "anonymous posters" without medical degrees specializing in psychiatry. It is really inappropriate to "diagnose" or "rule out" diseases on-line.

2) If anyone here does have a medical degree specializing in psychiatry or is otherwise a mental health professional, they would NEVER, in keeping with their ethics, diagnose or suggest treatment in this on-line forum.

3) When people begin to "diagnose" or "rule out" conditions of others, it borders on practicing without a license.


Please, be cautious and wise when replying to this type of issue.

ok here is my 2 cents worth..... I think if you decide to post a topic like this on line you also take the chance that you are going to get a range of opinions from a vast amount of people. I think all of us know that the answers are not that of a doctor or someone in the medical field. We should also learn to read take the bits we feel may be useful and discard the bits we feel are not. I think it is unfair to jump on people that are mearly offering an opinion on the subject.

Ok so here is my opinion. Seems to me that he is playing both of you to his advantage. Perhaps he has been doing this since you divorced.. that i don't know. only you know whether the things he may be displaying are leaning towards something more serious or he is just being manipulative to get his own way. I would suggest talking to a doctor or someone in the medical field that deals with this sort of stuff as they would be much better to advice you on any help etc that could be available to you family. I wish you all the best.

 

[satay]

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Sorry, welsummerchicks, this is where I step up and say:


1) We are "anonymous posters" without medical degrees specializing in psychiatry. It is really inappropriate to "diagnose" or "rule out" diseases on-line.

2) If anyone here does have a medical degree specializing in psychiatry or is otherwise a mental health professional, they would NEVER, in keeping with their ethics, diagnose or suggest treatment in this on-line forum.

3) When people begin to "diagnose" or "rule out" conditions of others, it borders on practicing without a license.


Please, be cautious and wise when replying to this type of issue.

YOu may want to empty your inbox so I can reply to your pm

 

[welsummerchicks]

You took my remarks out of context.

I said suggests, not diagnose, not 'he has'.

And I also said that it is impossible to know what's wrong unless one is a psychiatrist who interviews the person at length and has access to his medical history.

This person already sound like he is at the least, getting medications from some sort of medical practitioner.

 

[satay]

Thats what i thought you meant