Thank you for clarifying, good to know! I'm not sure if I will be able to get my husband on board but I know he really wants to spend a good amount of time looking at the chickens at the county fair this year, ours is at the beginning of August, so if they had some nice breeds for sale... he might get excited to buy a couple. Anyone have any idea what pullets are sold for at the fair, I'm not looking for champions, do breeders even bring "lesser quality" chickens to sell?When I was placing my order for started pullets, I was concerned about how their beaks were trimmed. I was told by someone at Meyer that the started pullets were raised on nearby farms and Meyer did not do the trimming. All they could tell me was that the Flock Manager said they were trimmed 1/4". I, also, read in an article about Meyer that their started pullets were raised by "contract growers," which to me means they are outsourced. There is, also, someone in another forum that has gotten hundreds of started pullets from Meyer, mostly Golden Buffs and Easter Eggers and she said that they are outsourced, which explains why the Easter Eggers' beaks are trimmed better than the golden buffs' beaks are. She has been happy with all the started pullets that she has received, by the way. It was her endorsement that made me feel comfortable about ordering my EEs from Meyer and I am so glad that I did!