Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

[eatwhatyougrow]

so the chicks are supposed to be in tomorrow morning if they survive the night at the gr terminal. I hope they dont get put in some truck tonight and then left there. Well i guess that song his eye is on the sparrow. Could be his eye is on the chickens. Anyhow we will know about 630 in the morn. Will post picks.

 

[eatwhatyougrow]

There was this guy who once said the tre of lib erty has to be watered every now and again. I think you reach the point where you understand that if you control the food you control

 

[Trefoil]

so the chicks are supposed to be in tomorrow morning if they survive the night at the gr terminal. I hope they dont get put in some truck tonight and then left there. Well i guess that song his eye is on the sparrow. Could be his eye is on the chickens. Anyhow we will know about 630 in the morn. Will post picks.

You could call and pick them up at the terminal. Just an option.

 

[Trefoil]

Welcome BigHope888.

I recently checked out closer Ohio revised code on the subject and it says townships cannot make any ordinance prohibiting agriculture or agricultural use of buildings.

When it comes right down to it, the changes in gaamp are going to end up making a lot of people "criminals". That is what happens when there are laws and regulations that are onerous,make no sense, and/or restrict basic rights. It gives the "authorities" a lever to use against people that upset them.
Raz- do you know if anybody has contacted the feed sellers & vendors in Michigan. Purina, Blue seal,TSC, Farm and Fleet, and I'm sure there are several others have a vested interest in not prohibiting the small time chicken and livestock owners. To a huge degree these companies depend on us. Most of the big producers mix their own rations. Michigan is supposed to be an agricultural state, is there anyway to call for the changes in GAAMP to be changed to
"townships/cities cannot make any ordinance prohibiting agriculture or agricultural use of buildings"? There are ordinances already in place in most townships and cities that prohibit everything that gaamp is trying to alleviate by its changes ( smell,noise, abuse,ect.) That negates the necessity of any gaamp changes.

 

[Living the Simple Life]

I plan to attend and be involved in C S 2014

Look forward to seeing you Bob, but this yer could you put the slimming lens on your camera so I don't look so fluffy!

 

[eatwhatyougrow]

yeah by the time i get down there and back at this point and the hassle of trying to find someone at this time of night...they will be here.

 

[Amy PT]

@eatwhatyougrow I wish I had seen this earlier today. I live in GR and would have happily brought them to my house for a warm up. Good luck to them tonight and tomorrow!

 

[BigHope888]

Thanks, everybody, for the welcomes!

@ Raz, I have long enjoyed your informative posts. Thank you!

@Fuzzy, you have an awesome point in saying to mind our words. I myself am a tragic, fumbling, loudmouthed spaz. True story. I could mouth off and make us all look like screwballs. I'll just try not to. ; )

And @ Trefoil---BRILLIANT! (See, I'm already shouting.) Feed suppliers should be an ally to us.

 

[eatwhatyougrow]

appreciate the offer. I am hoping they are we'll know shortly.

 

[fuzzybutt love]

Raz, HELP!
I've done and got one of the guys at work all fired up about this whole shebang (he don't believe me). I told him everything i knew based on last year's draft that i went over a ton
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but this reworded version has me stumped. The wind is out of my sails.......
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I've been over and over this new draft and i can't find one thing that'll hurt the livestock production facilities, or livestock in general unless you are in the zone 4 no-no area. the #3 area allows for livestock, just not the livestock production of the bigger ag. It even starts the chart out at 50+, so 50 units and under are unregulated??? (5000 laying hens, 2,750 turkeys)

"Category 3 sites may be zoned for agriculture but generally not suitable for livestock production facilities. They may be suitable for livestock facilities." (us little guys)
"Total Animal Units For new Operations ......50-249
Non-Farm Residences ............................... 6-13
Within Distance (of)...................................within ¼ mile
Property Line Setback1.............................. 250 ft

MDARD Site Review and Verification Process Upon Producer Request

Essentially i have to prove to this guy that at least some damage to ag will happen if this goes through. If i can show him this than he'll get his family involved; they own a local meat market or something along that line. They don't have sympathy toward city people and chickens, though.
But it would be a start?