Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

@RaZ I was reading through some stuff and came across these quotes. It made me think of what you went through.


"The real law is the common law as described in the above case and the code itself. The People are not "subject to law" generally (Yick Wo v Hopkins, 118 US 356, 370) except for the criminal codes that are codified common law. Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts. And the law is the definition and limitation of power. For the very idea that one man may be compelled to hold his life, or the means of living, or any material right essential to the enjoyment of life, at the mere will of another, seems to be intolerable on any country where freedom prevails, as being the essence of slavery itself. See: Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886)."

MICHAEL A. NEWDOW v. U.S. CONGRESS, 328 F.3d 466
The Bill of Rights is, of course, intended to protect the rights of those in the minority against the temporary passions of a majority which might wish to limit their freedoms or liberties. As Justice Jackson recognized: The very purpose of a Bill of Rights was to withdraw certain subjects from the vicissitudes of political controversy, to place them beyond the reach of majorities and officials and to establish them as legal principles to be applied by the courts. One's right to life, liberty, [*9] and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.



Emphasis by me.
 
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l Roo goes to camp next Monday.
Here's one more funny from mom...(she sent 9 total, I have uploaded them all in an album under my profile)...

@RaZ this one made me think of you
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Are you taking them to Munsells? I have 2 that I need to process.

Hello, my fellow freezing Michiganians! Is anyone going to the Ag Comission. meeting tomorrow? My boyfriend punked out and I'm not as prepared as I'd like to be : ( I do still want to go, though.

With or without RTF, I strongly hope to change our "No Poultry" ordinance. I want to draft a chicken ordinance that my city can deem beneficial. So, going forward, if anyone has a similar goal, especially my closest neighbors in Northern Metro Detroit, please PM me if you feel the need to brainstorm or collaborate. I'll post any progress.
I am going as well as a few other people from this area. I'll be meeting them in Ann Arbor to ride share.
Just a note of clarification. The RTF is not going away or being altered, it is a State Law and needs legislative action to change or repeal. The proposed Site Selection GAAMP is attempting to sidestep the law by denying people access to the legal protection afforded by the law. Essentially they want to make your local official the authority to decide if you can use the State Law. This violates the 14th Amendment.


I'll brainstorm with you but I must say that I see no need for a local ordinance because we already have the right to commercially produce an agriculture product.

@RaZ I was reading through some stuff and came across these quotes. It made me think of what you went through.

"The real law is the common law as described in the above case and the code itself. The People are not "subject to law" generally (Yick Wo v Hopkins, 118 US 356, 370) except for the criminal codes that are codified common law. Sovereignty itself is, of course, not subject to law, for it is the author and source of law; but in our system, while sovereign powers are delegated to the agencies of government, sovereignty itself remains with the people, by whom and for whom all government exists and acts. And the law is the definition and limitation of power. For the very idea that one man may be compelled to hold his life, or the means of living, or any material right essential to the enjoyment of life, at the mere will of another, seems to be intolerable on any country where freedom prevails, as being the essence of slavery itself. See: Yick Wo v. Hopkins, 118 U.S. 356 (1886)."
Great quote.
 
I haven't been on in months, school has kept me way too busy lol. I was just wondering if anyone else's flock has completely stopped laying? I know its cold but I haven't gotten an egg in 2 weeks and before that it was 3-6/week. I've only had chickens for two years so I was wondering if this is normal? I have 14 hens; half will be 2 in March and the other half will be 1 in April so they're not too old and laid well last winter.
 
Quote:Originally Posted by Opa :( What a sad day.

Quote:Originally Posted by BigHope888 I guess i punked out, too. :( I was going to, but when i read that the comments were being closed after the jan 22 meeting i kinda gave up.

Quote:Originally Posted by Maah Oh :( poor bird.
 
Yes, Munsell's. 17th was earliest they can do it; they needed a large enough group of "kids" for camp. Give them a ring ...
I just called and added to the Monday list. I'll be dropping them off around 7:00. Anyone in the Howell area want to meet for coffee or breakfast while I wait?
 
I guess i punked out, too. :( I was going to, but when i read that the comments were being closed after the jan 22 meeting i kinda gave up.
That was just for the public meeting period regarding the GAAMPs specifically.
You still have an opportunity to make your voice heard directly to the commissioners who will be voting on the changes. You can do so in person tomorrow and you can keep sending the commissioners letters before they actually vote.


Don't give up!
 
Hey RaZ. I've been trying to keep up with your city/chicken/court situation... but since I was on BYC hiatus for the last couple of months, I'm sure I missed some things. Your sig link hasn't been updated since October. Has anything new happened since then?
 

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