Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

[snowflake]

Hi grammi, they are going to make it so no one can grow or provide there own food. we will all have to go under ground

 

[1muttsfan]

I saw that too Grammi - fortunately my bees are well inside my property in a non-visible location. If they want to see them, they can get a search warrant.

X2 on Mareks vaccination, it is a very costly disease as it has a high mortality rate in young birds. Birds are often not affected until they are older chicks or young adults, and it is very sad to see. While the vaccine costs a few $$, it is less than the cost of replacing young point-of-lay pullets, or valuable/treasured stock.

Birds going for display such as county fairs require NPIP testing, and can be individually tested. If you are going to sell hatching eggs or birds out of state you may need NPIP certification, which is a whole flock test; you are not allowed to add untested birds to that flock after testing until your certificate expires, usually the following year - not permanently. That is to ensure that your flock remains negative after testing.

 

[RaZ]

If you reside in category 3 or 4 as described by MDARD you will not be able to keep bees even if you have a fence or the hives can't be seen.

The Public Comment period is open until December 12th, at 5 pm. You can email, write, or show up at the public comment period.

Details are here: http://www.michigan.gov/mdard/0,4610,7-125--341136--,00.html

 

[ladyrsanti]

Gee, only 585 posts since I last logged in. No way do I have time to read them all or even skim. We are headed to our robotics competition tomorrow. It will be a crazy day. Remember that scene in "Parenthood" where they're at the play, at the end, on the "roller coaster" and laughing hysterically? That'll be me tomorrow. My team is the biggest bunch of misfits I've ever seen. Four special needs kids and five immature ones. Sometimes I don't know which are harder to handle. ANYWAY...

Speaking of Mareks, I haven't seen hide nor hair of the disease in my flock after I lost the BCM pullet this summer. They say it's devastating but either it's hiding or that's not what it was. The little roo (Little Dude) that lived with her is going strong, the bugger. My big BCM roo hasn't squished him yet. Dunno how long that "friendship" will last. But I'm just going to let it run its course since I don't have another home for him. He's so adorable though. The buff brahma with the fowl pox cleared up good too. You wouldn't know she had it, looking at her face and no one else picked that up either.

Will be looking for dark BCM eggs to hatch come Feb/March. One more try and then I'm giving up having a BCM hen.

I've been taking deep water cardio classes at the Y lately. It's fun but I'm the youngest one there and play the wallflower a lot. They remind me of you guys and I mean that in a good way. Only they don't talk about chickens.

Hope everyone is doing well.

 

[misfitmorgan]

As far as the NPIP not being required i found this info finally.....though not how to get certified lol.

States that require NPIP or OCVI for the import of live chickens and/or hatching eggs(Exception: those going straight to slaughter):

alabama
arkansas
california
florida
indiana
minnesota
missouri
montana
nebraska
new hampshire
north carolina
new mexico
Oregon
pennsylvania
south carolina
texas
utah
virginia
vermont

Specifically for Michigan it also says:

Michigan

2. All poultry and hatching poultry eggs imported into Michigan shall be accompanied by one of the following:
a. Official interstate health certificate.
b. Official certificate of veterinary inspection.
c. “Report of Sales of Hatching Eggs, Chicks, and Poults” (VS form 9-3) for participants in the National Poultry Improvement Plan.
d. Owner-shipper statement or sales invoice if consigned directly to slaughter.
e. “Permit for Movement of Restricted Animals” (VS form 1-27), if prior approval is granted by the Director.
3. All poultry imported into Michigan, except those consigned directly to a state or federally inspected slaughter facility or to a
livestock auction market for sale as slaughter poultry, shall meet one or both of the following requirements:
a. Originate directly from an U.S. Salmonella pullorum-typhoid clean flock as defined in Title 9 of the Code of
Federal Regulations, and all amendments to that publication thereafter adopted pursuant to rules that the Director may promulgate.
b. Have a negative official test for Salmonella pullorum-typhoid within 90 days prior to importation and remain
segregated from all poultry of unknown or positive Salmonella pullorum-typhoid test status.
4. Poultry vaccinated for infectious laryngotracheitis shall not be imported into this state unless permission
from the Director is granted. Any restrictions placed by the Director on the import of the poultry shall be followed.

This is the link for the website the info came from - http://www.guineafowl.com/GeneralStore/regulations.htm

USDA also requires NPIP or OCVI since March 2013 for all poultry including hatching eggs (same slaughter exception)
This is the link for the website the info came from - http://www.aphis.usda.gov/traceability/downloads/ADT_summary_species.pdf

Now i found the "rules" am i saying we all follow the "rules" of course not!!! i dont follow them either and my NPIP Cert will depend a lot on cost, upkeep, time, and how much of a pain in the butt it is really. i work 50hrs a week inthe "real world", farm livestock, make and sell hay, and firewood on the side....so i'm not gonna bend over backwards trying to get NPIP if thats what it takes.

I'm also not telling anyone they need to get/be NPIP Certified i just found the info and it seems hard to find so i thought i would post it for everyone.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

 

[aart]

If you reside in category 3 or 4 as described by MDARD you will not be able to keep bees even if you have a fence or the hives can't be seen.

The Public Comment period is open until December 12th, at 5 pm. You can email, write, or show up at the public comment period.

Details are here: http://www.michigan.gov/mdard/0,4610,7-125--341136--,00.html

Oh Sh!t, geeeeez.


Is this a change(tightening of the parameters) or a verbiage clarification of existing parameters?

 

[birdman55]

keep up with my forum....
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/940456/building-paradise-for-the-birds

 

[taprock]

So if I'm going to pick another... I think I might try the marans. I haven't had that particular breed in a rooster yet though so I don't know what those boys are like. Anybody?

I'm likely too far north to help you but I have this big boy who needs a home. He is a Basque cross and his papa came from 1mutt - which we still have. He is people friendly but gets bullied by our other roosters. My Showgirl rooster chases him all over the place. Not the best picture.

 

[birdman55]

morning yall....bday was great...busy so have a good day

 

[Grammi]

I totally agree Snowflake, I cannot believe what they are doing to everyone, They want us to eat the junk they have in the stores!! We all have to fight these things as best we can.