Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

Hi Everyone! I need your help and creative minds! I finally have a contractor coming out to build a permanent pen for Moose and Lucy and he asked me to draw up some rough ideas. Crap! I don't know where to start??? I want a fenced in area attached to a Michigan winter/predator proof pen that they can enter or exit as frequently as they want.

The fenced in area needs to look nice. I'm thinking a 20 x 30' or 30x30 should be enough for 2 geese and possibly 2 ducks in the future. I have a 5'x2' pool for them that they can't get out of and I need to figure out some kind of ramp with hardware cloth so they can get out of but not get stuck when they dive. I need a pen that will keep them warm in the winter and cool in the summer. What do I use on the floor? I currently am using pine shavings which they love, but it sure is a pain to clean out every day! Then I have all those shavings to put in the trash. Inside the pen, I would like a bench, so we can go in there and sit with them in the winter when it's too cold to go out. Did I mention that there is a Critter Control company 5 houses down from me? Ya, so after they collect all their raccoons, fox, skunk, etc. they dump them practically in my yard. I just had an albino raccoon removed from my attic last week. So I have major predators.

So, Basically, I need an aesthetically pleasing fenced in area(I live in a sub), with their big pool I bought them, and a pen/house that will have good ventilation/insulation, seating, food, water that NO animal can get into.

I need to be able to leave them for up to a week at a time and know they are safe.

Who can help me? If you can give me ideas, pictures or offer to build it for me, I'll cancel the appointment with the contractor. I live in White Lake.


I was looking at those shed/playhouse kits from home depot. I want the strength of the metal structures, but the look of the wood. The squirrels and wood chucks have chewed my deck, my kids Rainbow swing set and anything in my yard. I had an insulated heavy duty plastic deck box on my deck that I was keeping bird food in when I used to have feeders. The "heavy duty" box was a fail! The squirrels chewed through the 2 layers of plastic at the bottom corners and got in.

Please help!!!!
 
The TSC in Whitmore Lake (North Territorial and US 23) had lots of chicks and duckling.  Mislabeled Ameraucanas pullets; Assorted bantam pullets; Sex-link pullets (that were Welsummers with roos) and a few other bins that had no tag. Nothing was less than $2.99 with a minimum of 6 birds.

Despite the poor labels, the chicks all seemed to have been taken care of. Even the duck bins had fresh clean water and food. And you know how quickly ducklings can foul a fount.

They also had those big rooster statues for sale. I would love to have one in my front yard.

No offence but i dont want some hatchery bird that i dont really know what it is and then find out it has terible type and am now out as much as buying a good pair from the start. Thanks anyways
 
Farm news:
Silkie x polish missing two days was found on a nest under some car parts.
Rooster I though had a strange case of bumble foot is actually just losing the tip of his toe now from a previously unnoticed case of frostbite.
Four broody Cochins fighting over nest boxes.
Romantic guineas will NOT stop chasing each other, but no eggs yet.
My only Olandisk dwarf hen has (what I believe) is kidney disease/failure. She has been losing weight and lethargic but yesterday she started drinking water at a very abnormal rate. She was separated to try find the problem but I've put her back out to enjoy her last days as much as possible. She hangs out next to the water dish.

AND...the eggs are wiggling in the incubator!:D
 
No offence but i dont want some hatchery bird that i dont really know what it is and then find out it has terible type and am now out as much as buying a good pair from the start. Thanks anyways
No offense taken. What I posted was more of a warning.
If you want a certain breed or type, you should look to reputable breeders. Or ask here.

If you just want a common chicken or duck, then TSC or FFH is fine.
 
Catching up:
@Stacykins ah, your kids. So sweet.
@gladahmae I thought the pics looked like frostbite. I know lots of OT's won't waste time/energy, but you know what? If it's your bird and your flock, do what *you* want. Personally I would not view that bird as a "weak link" as previously mentioned, since whatever caused that was likely environmental, as you already know. That being said, don't feel bad. It does happen. And the past 2 winters have been wicked in terms of frostbite damage. And we can't exactly prevent winter, now can we? I think as long as your bird is not displaying symptoms of distress or inability to move about, or is in pain, let it be.
@justplainbatty I used to till my clay. Never again. It's too much like work with clay soil, and I have 3 tiller tractors and a disc set to choose from. I just layer, and keep my focus on building great soil as opposed to tilling apart and destroying the clay. Watch this youtube to see what I'm talking about.
Paul's purpose is spiritual, but the principles are sound and everyone can utilize them.
Ummmm. I had more to say to more folks, but I'm forgetting who to mention and this is turning into a book. New duck owners: At one week old, you should be at 90'F brooder temp and 18-20% protein feed. At 3 wks of age, or when you start to see real feathers coming in, go ahead and drop to 18% feed and continue with that until they are fully feathered with their adult feathers. Then drop to 16% protein, and watch any females to see if you require calcium supplementation. Temperature requirements drop 5'F each week with age, so at 2 weeks, you'll need 85'F, 3 weeks 80'F, and so forth. And for those that say what about the wild ducklings on my pond? Well it's just totally different when they are brooded by humans versus raised by their mother. Period.

I will watch that. I am looking for dressing, the disker is working-hard! It's all clay.
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This land was previously a sheep farm about a hundred yrs ago. You can't tell it now. There are some sand veins on the land but not where my garden needs to be, of course. I'm thinking of some black dirt from the carrot farm and idk what else yet. I better hurry up tho! Good post btw, especially to gladehmae.
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One of my girls was attacked by a dog yesterday.  I have put red-kote on her wounds but was wondering if I should put her on an antibiotic, and if so which one?  Any advice would be appreciated.


Did not yet read responses, maybe this is already noted. I personally would not use red kote, I have read that the color confuses the rest of the flock into picking at wounds, thereby making them worse. I'd switch to Epsom Salt soaks, then blue kote.
 

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