Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

[WalnutHill]

Yeah,
he clarified-kinda,
several pages back:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/697050/michigan-thread-all-are-welcome/38310#post_17920008

Sorry. Hard to keep up on mobile.

 

[WalnutHill]

Once you establish a Veterinary-client-patient relationship your vet should be able to supply you with medications, although they may need to see some patients. Establishing this relationship for a farm involves a farm visit. Vets who supply medication without establishing that relationship, give out medication indescriminantly, or provide medication that is used incorrectly, may be liable If something goes wrong. This would put their livelihood at risk. All a part of holding folks responsible for their choices, I'm afraid.

I am all for this, but the state refers you to MVA to find a vet that specializes in your type of animal, and none are listed who specialize in poultry. No vets within quite a few miles (20+) have a poultry practice.

This is an opportunity for veterinarians to reach out to new clients if ever there was one. Unfortunately, it seems like animal medicine has gone the way of human medicine...all in a rush, lots of tests, high expense.

It really is sad that the commercial operators will keep doing business as usual and small farmers are affected so suddenly and so deeply with no safety net, not even an accurate guide to veterinary services for livestock.

 

[meltel]

I am all for this, but the state refers you to MVA to find a vet that specializes in your type of animal, and none are listed who specialize in poultry. No vets within quite a few miles (20+) have a poultry practice.

This is an opportunity for veterinarians to reach out to new clients if ever there was one. Unfortunately, it seems like animal medicine has gone the way of human medicine...all in a rush, lots of tests, high expense.

It really is sad that the commercial operators will keep doing business as usual and small farmers are affected so suddenly and so deeply with no safety net, not even an accurate guide to veterinary services for livestock.

walnut, have you tried Krause in Armada? I think they do chickens.

 

[WalnutHill]

walnut, have you tried Krause in Armada? I think they do chickens.

Armada's a fair haul from here, but it may be my only option. I need that relationship, or I cull.

 

[meltel]

Armada's a fair haul from here, but it may be my only option. I need that relationship, or I cull.

sending you a PM

 

[uchytil]

CHICKENSTOCK
June 10, 2017
Delta Mills PARK
10am-3pm

Bring it on!

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I have all the stuff that RaZ gave me...raffle tickets, some dinner ware, and the sign-in book that covers the many years of CS. The book is probably most important but, in fact, people showing up would be nice as the numbers have dropped over that last few years. Always nice to see all of our friends. I'll continue to get the word out to the few members that don't log in anymore and hope they'll come.

 

[1muttsfan]

I am all for this, but the state refers you to MVA to find a vet that specializes in your type of animal, and none are listed who specialize in poultry.  No vets within quite a few miles (20+) have a poultry practice.  

This is an opportunity for veterinarians to reach out to new clients if ever there was one.  Unfortunately, it seems like animal medicine has gone the way of human medicine...all in a rush, lots of tests, high expense

It is true that costs have risen in veterinary medicine. Medications that used to be very inexpensive have skyrocketed in price, and costs of insurance are much higher now. A farm call that takes several hours including driving time is far more expensive than even 10 years ago. Most vets are probably not inclined to add the expense of training to see birds, when quite honestly most small flock owners are not interested in paying what it costs.

 

[bigmrg74]

It is true that costs have risen in veterinary medicine. Medications that used to be very inexpensive have skyrocketed in price, and costs of insurance are much higher now. A farm call that takes several hours including driving time is far more expensive than even 10 years ago. Most vets are probably not inclined to add the expense of training to see birds, when quite honestly most small flock owners are not interested in paying what it costs.

Heck, it's hard enough to find a good large animal vet anymore. Our regular vet for our horses here was forced to retire due to heart issues and he had been trying to find somebody else to take over his practice. Never could find someone. **** shame as he had a pretty thriving practice out of Blissfield. Not a lot of people really want to get a 3 AM call in some lousy weather to go help a 1,200 pound animal give birth or something worse.

 

[zndzant]

Heck, it's hard enough to find a good large animal vet anymore. Our regular vet for our horses here was forced to retire due to heart issues and he had been trying to find somebody else to take over his practice. Never could find someone. **** shame as he had a pretty thriving practice out of Blissfield. Not a lot of people really want to get a 3 AM call in some lousy weather to go help a 1,200 pound animal give birth or something worse.

We're fortunate here in Armada, that we now have a 3rd generation "Doc Krause". When we moved here in 1977 from Sterling Heights, "Old Doc Krause" was practicing. HIs son was a senior, while I was a junior in high school. Then "Daren" went to Michigan State and became "Doc Krause" and worked with his dad for a few years. "Old Doc Krause" eventually retired and Daren took over the practice. He was the only vet who could handle our high-strung, b*tchy quarter horse mare. And now, Daren is still in practice(I'm 55 and he's a year older than me, so 56?) and his son has also completed Vet School and is working in the practice. It's pretty cool, but I had to ask Daren last time I was in, when did we get old enough for his son to be graduated from vet school? lol. It's so nice when your vet actually knows you and your animals. And it helps, that you can go in without your animal and say I think I've got coccidiosis starting in my flock, can you give me enough Corid for one round of treatment? If they're not better, can I bring in a stool sample for testing? And they say sure. No problem. You can even bring the chicken in and we will treat it if need be. But they won't make you pay for an office visit when it's something you both have seen before in your animals and you both know what is needed.

 

[1muttsfan]

I remember "old" Doc Krause from years ago when I worked on Mackinac Island. He worked there for a few years after he "retired", then hurt his back in a ladder accident and no longer could do it. Great guy.