Michigan Thread - all are welcome!

[NovaAman]

I found this...

Licensed food establishments can obtain eggs directly from the producer if the producer is a MDARD licensed processing establishment. Michigan food laws require that egg processors (i.e. those that clean, grade or break eggs) be licensed by MDARD. The Food Code, section 3-202.13 requires food establishments to receive eggs that are clean and sound and be grade AA, A,or B. Eggs must be held at refrigeration temperatures. Egg cartons or other packaging materials must be clean and properly labeled.

 

[RaZ]

Nope, don't have one. I have always wiggled the posts and pull them out.

That is hard on one's back. Store bought puller will save you in the long run, both time and aches. They are 30 to 60 dollars.

Before you pull the t-posts you should give me a call so I can explain how you can make a post puller with materials you probably have on hand .

Just a random observation. I always thought cats were supposed to be in hats not boxes.

Tri-pod style or store-bought style? Just curious.
Cats are also found in boots. In boats. And hanging around with Owls.

So around here are there any laws about selling your eggs, like if I can sell them to a restaurant, do I have to have my chickens tested, or candle each one or anything like that.

I found some information from MDARD. It is with my defense package so I need to dig through. I'll let you know.
The short answer is you can sell directly to people, i.e. road-side stand without extra processing. I'll check my resources for restaurant.

Found it. This is from the presentation to State Officials (emphasis is mine). Published on line at:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdard/Food_Law_Summary_Training_Presentation_2012_397205_7.pdf


MFL 289.7114 Eggs con’t
• Visual Examination
• Labeling/Advertising
• Temperature Requirements
• Licensure/Regulation
– > 3,000 hens must follow USDA standards for shell eggs and requires a
food license
• This act does NOT apply to a person who meets all of the following
requirements.
A) Is directly responsible for producing eggs from fewer than 3,000
hens
B) Only sells directly to consumers or first receivers
C) Only sells eggs in containers that bear a label stating
“PACKAGED IN A FACILITY THAT HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT “
D) Does NOT sell eggs through the internet or by mail order or
consignmentTemporary Food Establishment

 

[NovaAman]

http://www.michigan.gov/mdard

 

[NovaAman]

For resturaunts you need to be licensed and in compliance with MDARD regulations.

 

[1muttsfan]

If you are selling eggs to resteraunts or other commercial establishments, you are basically selling them for resale - either cooked or raw. That is where the additional regulations come in.

Are we also supposed to be labeling our egg cartons with the "packaged in a non-licensed facility" label? Not that it would be hard to do, but I have not done this.

 

[Brethren49619]

So around here are there any laws about selling your eggs, like if I can sell them to a restaurant, do I have to have my chickens tested, or candle each one or anything like that.

Your wisdom is much appreciated! Thanks!!

So many responses, and so fast. Wow. Isn't it great when people help each other out. Nice to have a forum where all kinds of questions can be answered.

 

[BentoMinion]

Question, I just realized I forgot to buy a candler and if I order one now it will prob take a week. I admit IDK if I want to wait that long. Due to being ill and some other medical stuff I have next to no sense of smell. So I cannot smell if my eggs are bad. Neither can my SO. I don't trust my friend who is staying with up to smell them because, well, she is the one who messed with my incubator to begin with and I don't want her to think it is ok for her to touch it under any circumstances. Any ideas on how to candle them? My eggs are brown and light (really light) blue/green.

 

[BobBry]

what direction is the best for a 3 sided shed to have the open side on?


Opposite prevailing wind in the locale.

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Though it seems problems like to come in groups. My kitty likely has a UTI. She used a bathroom rug as a place to potty. Last time she did that, a trip to the vet confirmed a UTI. So I gotta try and get a sample to them tomorrow. At least I have a short day at work.


UTI --??

Thank you all for your kind words. I will definitely be looking you guys up when I get back for some birds....thanks for all the offers.

Nope, don't have one. I have always wiggled the posts and pull them out.

Should be easy to make. About all you need is a post of some kind, with a pivot point strong enough, and a sturdy, rigid lever long enough to provide enough leverage pull the fence post out. Holes and pins, to vary the lengths, and maybe chain to attach to the post to be pulled out might help too. Of course the class of lever chosen determines locations. I changed my mind. Might not be so easy. But The concepts are fun to play with.

Who was it that said; " Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I could move the Earth." ? (Or something to that effect?) Aristotle, Galileo, maybe Copernicus

 

[greenmimama]

That is hard on one's back. Store bought puller will save you in the long run, both time and aches. They are 30 to 60 dollars.
Tri-pod style or store-bought style? Just curious.
Cats are also found in boots. In boats. And hanging around with Owls.
I found some information from MDARD. It is with my defense package so I need to dig through. I'll let you know.
The short answer is you can sell directly to people, i.e. road-side stand without extra processing. I'll check my resources for restaurant.

Found it. This is from the presentation to State Officials (emphasis is mine). Published on line at:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/mdard/Food_Law_Summary_Training_Presentation_2012_397205_7.pdf


MFL 289.7114 Eggs con’t
• Visual Examination
• Labeling/Advertising
• Temperature Requirements
• Licensure/Regulation
– > 3,000 hens must follow USDA standards for shell eggs and requires a
food license
• This act does NOT apply to a person who meets all of the following
requirements.
A) Is directly responsible for producing eggs from fewer than 3,000
hens
B) Only sells directly to consumers or first receivers
C) Only sells eggs in containers that bear a label stating
“PACKAGED IN A FACILITY THAT HAS NOT BEEN INSPECTED BY THE
DEPARTMENT “
D) Does NOT sell eggs through the internet or by mail order or
consignmentTemporary Food Establishment

So is this saying that if labeled correctly like mentioned above, they could be sold, BTW it is not to a restaraunt, but a door to door delivery service, so my eggs would be delevered along with other farmers organic foods.

Yes, thank you all so much for the quick responses!!

 

[HollyDuckFarmer]

Question, I just realized I forgot to buy a candler and if I order one now it will prob take a week. I admit IDK if I want to wait that long. Due to being ill and some other medical stuff I have next to no sense of smell. So I cannot smell if my eggs are bad. Neither can my SO. I don't trust my friend who is staying with up to smell them because, well, she is the one who messed with my incubator to begin with and I don't want her to think it is ok for her to touch it under any circumstances. Any ideas on how to candle them? My eggs are brown and light (really light) blue/green.

I use a mini mag lite on my duck eggs, but they are white.