Michigan Thread - all are welcome!


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.someone asked why I waited so long...for the bite to become infected or to log back into BYC???
I told the ER doc not to put any stitches in...you NEVER stitch a dog bite because of the deep tissue infections that can occur...but would she listen??? Nooooooo. I should have gone home and took them out myself, but it was awful painful at that point.
Anyway, here's a pic of the glazed eggs...they don't show up real well in pictures but look fabulous in person. You can see the reflection on the eggs, that's not from a flash.

Those are lovely, they look like beach stones. Wish I had some turkey eggs for you. Do you think that would work on an Emu egg? I find myself in possession of a blown-out one.


glambka, the glazed eggs are beautiful!!
Have a good day, all. Off to Lansing to sit for my two youngest grand girls...
Have fun!
 
Glam... so sorry to hear you were having such difficulties, I ended up sending all the turkeys to freezer camp. Will be starting over in the spring with new so I won't be able to help out with them this year. The egg glazing is beautiful!


I hope you and Sam both recover.
A friend of ours who had a knee replacement, due to injury, and suffered with rejection, metal fragments, screws come out and his knee could collapse at any time..(no money to get it fixed).. he finally was prompted to go to the Dr.because the lawsuit for the knee was almost set to expire......... what he found out was quite disturbing. The knee was not the knee he was supposed to have had. The Dr. who worked at the then Foote hospital, switched it with an old knee that was discontinued/recalled due to issues, but charged the insurance and told our friend he put in the other knee. I hope this will be a blessing in disguise for our friend. The Dr. (from India)... I think is gone, but the hospital should be held accountable. I'd be going after both personally... make sure that sob never can practice again!
So, I'm still not thrilled with the bee fence issue. The wording is pretty stupid and confusing even with the slight modification. I'm going to put my bees where they need to be put for their health and well being. I won't aim them at my neighbors house and I'm not putting up a fence.
 
So, I'm still not thrilled with the bee fence issue. The wording is pretty stupid and confusing even with the slight modification. I'm going to put my bees where they need to be put for their health and well being. I won't aim them at my neighbors house and I'm not putting up a fence.
My uneducated understanding is that you only need the fence if it's at, or under, 200 feet from an adjoining property line. That said, many bee keepers will fall in that category if they live on small plots of land. So, I also read that you need the said fence as "line of sight". This means there is no definitive length directed. You could set a short 6 foot high solid fence close to the hive and as long as it cannot be seen from the nearest property line viewing area (similar to people that put fences blocking propane tanks, etc.). Obviously as you move away from the hive the fence length would need to be lengthened hence "line of sight".

All this to prevent what? Keep bees from flying into the kids playing in the next yard, and/or, such? Who's going to enforce this? I asked someone over on FB that attended the GAAMP thing to clarify the outcome for me. I had intended, at some point, in the next few years, of building my own bee keeping hives. I need more honey to go with my maple syrup for making Acerglyn.

It does seem "stupid".
 
That is it. The report given yesterday was kind of self congratulating that this problem was found and resolved. As the feed specialist said, "turkeys were the canary in the coal mine". The affected farm in Michigan was not identified but this problem was reported in eight (8) states. And it wasn't necessarily the loss of the turkeys that was the problem; it was that this contamination was also fed to swine. THAT was the big deal. Taking the pigs to market was put on hold.

The truly scary thing is that the FDA recommended a 28 day hold on butchering the hogs while MDARD was fighting for a lesser hold period. In total, some 20,000 pigs were held for 4 weeks then added to the food supply. No word on how the turkeys were disposed of and I was not allowed to ask.

So, I'm still not thrilled with the bee fence issue. The wording is pretty stupid and confusing even with the slight modification. I'm going to put my bees where they need to be put for their health and well being. I won't aim them at my neighbors house and I'm not putting up a fence.
I'm not thrilled either but this was a compromise that should help keep the local ordinance donks from getting involved. You do not need a "fence", just a simple barrier of some type located such that a neighbor with 200 feet of the hive can not see the front of the hive.

My uneducated understanding is that you only need the fence if it's at, or under, 200 feet from an adjoining property line. That said, many bee keepers will fall in that category if they live on small plots of land. So, I also read that you need the said fence as "line of sight". This means there is no definitive length directed. You could set a short 6 foot high solid fence close to the hive and as long as it cannot be seen from the nearest property line viewing area (similar to people that put fences blocking propane tanks, etc.). Obviously as you move away from the hive the fence length would need to be lengthened hence "line of sight".

All this to prevent what? Keep bees from flying into the kids playing in the next yard, and/or, such? Who's going to enforce this? I asked someone over on FB that attended the GAAMP thing to clarify the outcome for me. I had intended, at some point, in the next few years, of building my own bee keeping hives. I need more honey to go with my maple syrup for making Acerglyn.

It does seem "stupid".
Anytime a committee says that the wording was changed to "clarify" an issue you can bet the farm that it will become even more unclear. This is a good example.
This change is/was intended to appease the uninformed neighbors who do not know or understand anything about honeybees. I guess it is easier to put limits on the few beekeepers than it is to educated the unwashed masses.
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As far as enforcement, this, like the other GAAMPs are voluntary guidelines to follow. No one is obligated to follow them. But if you do then you have an opportunity to use the RTFA as a defense in court.

On a side note, I'm working on a design for a stealth beehive that can be hidden in plain sight.
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That is it. The report given yesterday was kind of self congratulating that this problem was found and resolved. As the feed specialist said, "turkeys were the canary in the coal mine". The affected farm in Michigan was not identified but this problem was reported in eight (8) states. And it wasn't necessarily the loss of the turkeys that was the problem; it was that this contamination was also fed to swine. THAT was the big deal. Taking the pigs to market was put on hold.

The truly scary thing is that the FDA recommended a 28 day hold on butchering the hogs while MDARD was fighting for a lesser hold period. In total, some 20,000 pigs were held for 4 weeks then added to the food supply. No word on how the turkeys were disposed of and I was not allowed to ask.

I'm not thrilled either but this was a compromise that should help keep the local ordinance donks from getting involved. You do not need a "fence", just a simple barrier of some type located such that a neighbor with 200 feet of the hive can not see the front of the hive.

Anytime a committee says that the wording was changed to "clarify" an issue you can bet the farm that it will become even more unclear. This is a good example.
This change is/was intended to appease the uninformed neighbors who do not know or understand anything about honeybees. I guess it is easier to put limits on the few beekeepers than it is to educated the unwashed masses.
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As far as enforcement, this, like the other GAAMPs are voluntary guidelines to follow. No one is obligated to follow them. But if you do then you have an opportunity to use the RTFA as a defense in court.

On a side note, I'm working on a design for a stealth beehive that can be hidden in plain sight.
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I can't wait to "see" it .
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Man, they can't just leave well enough alone can they?
Thanks for the info.
 
Off topic here. Hopefully its ok to post.

Does someone know what time of year to prune back VERY old lilac bushes?
Our new place has about 8 large well established bushes of various types/colors.
Based on previous owner they haven't had much maintenance in the past 25 yrs. So my goal is to get them nice again. The largest one is 10-15' diameter and most bloom way above our head. Except one thats been shaded out and needs moved. Theirs at least 1 3-6" stem per bush, i believe these need to be the first to come out.

Any tips or tricks for this task would be great. Mainly trying to get an idea of when to do it in hopes they will still bloom this year.

Thank you
 
Off topic here. Hopefully its ok to post.

Does someone know what time of year to prune back VERY old lilac bushes?
Our new place has about 8 large well established bushes of various types/colors.
Based on previous owner they haven't had much maintenance in the past 25 yrs. So my goal is to get them nice again. The largest one is 10-15' diameter and most bloom way above our head. Except one thats been shaded out and needs moved. Theirs at least 1 3-6" stem per bush, i believe these need to be the first to come out.

Any tips or tricks for this task would be great. Mainly trying to get an idea of when to do it in hopes they will still bloom this year.

Thank you
Wait until after they bloom if you want to see flowers this year.
If you don't care about them being flowerless this year then prune in late February.
That is pretty much true for any flowering shrub that blooms in spring. If you want the flowers wait until they are done blooming before pruning.

Those who know me...Or just cut the darn things to the ground and dig out the roots.
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Off topic here. Hopefully its ok to post.

Does someone know what time of year to prune back VERY old lilac bushes?
Our new place has about 8 large well established bushes of various types/colors.
Based on previous owner they haven't had much maintenance in the past 25 yrs. So my goal is to get them nice again. The largest one is 10-15' diameter and most bloom way above our head. Except one thats been shaded out and needs moved. Theirs at least 1 3-6" stem per bush, i believe these need to be the first to come out.

Any tips or tricks for this task would be great. Mainly trying to get an idea of when to do it in hopes they will still bloom this year.

Thank you
Good question and no it's not off-topic. We discuss everything from chooks to chinooks on here - it's a social thread. Anything (within reason) is on-topic. Anyway, maybe RaZ will have something to say on the matter. All I know is I prune dead of winter on my grapes, apples, and blueberries. I have had great luck digging up our purple and white lilac runners that pop up and moving them. Very hardy if I can do it, lol! We need to prune our old large lilac bushes as well.
 

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