Sorry it took so long to get back and answer your question, Nancy. Worms cause soft egg shell as well as calcium deficiency.
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Oh! Thanks Nova, that is new to me. Did it say what kind of worm does that? I had a hen who was older and she laid soft shell eggs. I also had a younger hen with a hernia who would occasionally lay soft shell eggs.
Ivermectin don't kill all the kinds of worms. That's why i suggested the horse wormer, It kills even tapeworms with only one dose. You can use zimectrin gold too. When you know what exactly you are dealing with, you can go with a gentler wormer that will target that kind of worm, but in a mystery case where they are dying and a vet isn't an option, i do the "nuke" approach and kill them all. Perhaps these are the capillary worms, then? They are supposed to be too small to see. I will look up the symptoms for those ones.
Normally when a chicken/bird falls, even in the dark, they flap and break their fall even if they don't know where they are going.......... The fact that bones were broke, and she was directly under the roost spot says she probably wasn't responsive when she fell. Good news is that she probably went to sleep and just didn't wake up.
OK, i don't like the new picture format.
But guess what i'm having??? yum. This time i added an extra 1/2 ts of salt, pre-coated with flour, and upped the water to 1 cup and the milk to 1 cup. Mmm. My new go-to recipe!
Normally when a chicken/bird falls, even in the dark, they flap and break their fall even if they don't know where they are going.......... The fact that bones were broke, and she was directly under the roost spot says she probably wasn't responsive when she fell. Good news is that she probably went to sleep and just didn't wake up.
OK, i don't like the new picture format.
But guess what i'm having??? yum. This time i added an extra 1/2 ts of salt, pre-coated with flour, and upped the water to 1 cup and the milk to 1 cup. Mmm. My new go-to recipe!
A couple thoughts from a newbie:
My Silkie "Quoth" is the only chicken that I don't have to chase to catch. I just bend down and scoop her up with one hand. All the other chickens protest with various degrees of outrage when held; Quoth is content. When I give old kitchen scraps to the chickens, she can't find a piece under her nose, and if she manages to find one, it takes her so long to decide to eat it that it's long gone before she decides it's edible. She is great as a fun little creature distantly related to the chicken. She would survive about three seconds in the wild.
On mortgages: ours is in trouble (recession), the mortgage company threatened foreclosure then offered to make an adjustment. In one bunch of papers they sent us, they included, very much by mistake, an internal document recommending that our interest rate (which is over 7 percent) be cut to 3 percent and our monthly payment be reduced.
What they actually offered us was the same interest rate and doubled the monthly payment.
To add insult to injury, their legal firm then sent us a foreclosure notice by mistake. The notice came late on a Friday so we believed all weekend that we were foreclosed. After many phone calls on Monday, they admitted it was a "clerical error."
Fun! But we still have a house and each other. And chickens. All is well. (and we eat a lot of beans.)
My Silkie "Quoth" is the only chicken that I don't have to chase to catch. I just bend down and scoop her up with one hand. All the other chickens protest with various degrees of outrage when held; Quoth is content. When I give old kitchen scraps to the chickens, she can't find a piece under her nose, and if she manages to find one, it takes her so long to decide to eat it that it's long gone before she decides it's edible. She is great as a fun little creature distantly related to the chicken. She would survive about three seconds in the wild.
On mortgages: ours is in trouble (recession), the mortgage company threatened foreclosure then offered to make an adjustment. In one bunch of papers they sent us, they included, very much by mistake, an internal document recommending that our interest rate (which is over 7 percent) be cut to 3 percent and our monthly payment be reduced.
What they actually offered us was the same interest rate and doubled the monthly payment.
To add insult to injury, their legal firm then sent us a foreclosure notice by mistake. The notice came late on a Friday so we believed all weekend that we were foreclosed. After many phone calls on Monday, they admitted it was a "clerical error."
Fun! But we still have a house and each other. And chickens. All is well. (and we eat a lot of beans.)
Nope, not capillary. That gives a poor appetite and possibly wheezing, throwing head back. All i can think to look up now would be the walking funny, seems to be a similarity. could be the egg binding, but what are the odds of having them all have it from even the same family within the same 4 week time-span? I would personally keep my eyes peeled for any possible clues, just in case. Never hurts to be over-informed! DH is pestering, so i will google a bit tomorrow perhaps.
Was her bottom messy? That could indicate mites, perhaps.
Was her bottom messy? That could indicate mites, perhaps.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/4667/chicken-walks-funny-holds-tail-down-doesnt-eat
Only other thing i could find in a pinch; i guess a blocked crop will give similar symptoms to egg bound. ????????? If it was the egg binding, i hope this is the end of your losses, you have lost so many recently.
Only other thing i could find in a pinch; i guess a blocked crop will give similar symptoms to egg bound. ????????? If it was the egg binding, i hope this is the end of your losses, you have lost so many recently.
That's where we have a common bit in the fact that my daughter hates her dad that much, too. There were things irreplaceable he destroyed and things in general that he did or allowed his new wife and step-kids to do that sent her over that edge. She hasn't seen or spoken to any of them in 4 years. My son stopped contact 3 years ago and my youngest just this year in January. I warned him repeatedly what his actions would do, but he never listened.
I re-set my trap again. Last night something came around, took my bait and triggered the trap, but managed to get away.
Oh, tiny funny story. I was putting my bantams in the fenced yard and our d'uccle roo, who is getting a bit challenge-y lately, scuttled up to the fence like 'bring it, lady'. So I leaned down, gave him a look and went 'boo!' with a flash of hands. He jumped 3 feet straight up and ran away. It was so hilarious.
the 3 birds that I have lost illness were not related at all. They all even slept in different coops. Vanna was one of my first birds. The unnamed hen was from the batch I got in January from Avalon, and Belle Mai was the off spring of Roger and Buffy, who was killed by a hawk. Belle did not have a pasty butt. She did not have the skeets. My only other thought in regards to her would be, did the coon harm her too? It was quite gross cutting her open to look for egg being stuck and in her digestive track for worms. Her crop was empty. She was on the ground, under a table about 7feet away from the roost. Well any way, iguess I will never know, and chit happens. She did notice in her sleep. She was still alive when I found her under the table at 9 this morning. She died a few hours later.
Hey CG, I was wrong... I think I read about the soft shell and worms on a different poultry.. But here is something I found...
Thin-shelled, soft-shelled, no-shell, porous, misshaped / deformed eggs and other egg shell irregularities can occur due to a variety of factors.
Situations where a sudden drop in egg production occurs are most likely to be infectious. In the absence of obvious signs of disease (sudden change in egg laying / obvious disease symptoms, such as respiratory, loss of weight, etc.), potential environmental and dietary issues should be explored and, once identified, remedied.
The most common cause of soft / no-egg shell eggs is dietary or environmental ...
A loss of egg production or the possibility of egg abnormalities also increase with age.
Environmental Issues:
Abnormal Heat / Humidity Levels:
Excessive heat - exposure to temperatures over 85-90°F (29 - 32° Centigrade)
Extreme low or high humidity levels
Parasites: skin parasites or internal worms
Toxins in the environment (i.e., mold / fungi, bacteria, etc.)
Stress: Minimize noise and disturbance around brooding hens, as this could prompt them to lay eggs early before they are fully formed.
Molting while egg-laying
Thin-shelled, soft-shelled, no-shell, porous, misshaped / deformed eggs and other egg shell irregularities can occur due to a variety of factors.
Situations where a sudden drop in egg production occurs are most likely to be infectious. In the absence of obvious signs of disease (sudden change in egg laying / obvious disease symptoms, such as respiratory, loss of weight, etc.), potential environmental and dietary issues should be explored and, once identified, remedied.
The most common cause of soft / no-egg shell eggs is dietary or environmental ...
A loss of egg production or the possibility of egg abnormalities also increase with age.
Environmental Issues:
Abnormal Heat / Humidity Levels:
Excessive heat - exposure to temperatures over 85-90°F (29 - 32° Centigrade)
Extreme low or high humidity levels
Parasites: skin parasites or internal worms
Toxins in the environment (i.e., mold / fungi, bacteria, etc.)
Stress: Minimize noise and disturbance around brooding hens, as this could prompt them to lay eggs early before they are fully formed.
Molting while egg-laying
This is the 6th night in a row I've had hiccups late at night.
I can't sleep. Partially because I've had severe pain in my feet for a while but also because I'm getting 3 geese tomorrow!!! We've done some rearranging for the time being til we can get some stuff built to house them. I'm SO excited. KrisRose and chickflick are awesome to bring them to me!!!
I just checked my email and got the shock of my life!!
For those that are new, long story short, my dad found my long lost brother that he hasn't seen since he was 3 years old. They've been communicating for the last year and my dad went out to see him a couple of months ago. Well, my dad kept me up to date on their communication but he never gave me his email or phone number.
Recently I was given access to a paid account on Ancestry.com and guess who was on there! So I wrote to him, introduced myself and made it very short. That was a month ago. He wrote to me tonight! He's coming here next month and I'll FINALLY GET TO MEET MY BROTHER!!!
Now I really won't be able to sleep LOL
I can't sleep. Partially because I've had severe pain in my feet for a while but also because I'm getting 3 geese tomorrow!!! We've done some rearranging for the time being til we can get some stuff built to house them. I'm SO excited. KrisRose and chickflick are awesome to bring them to me!!!
I just checked my email and got the shock of my life!!
For those that are new, long story short, my dad found my long lost brother that he hasn't seen since he was 3 years old. They've been communicating for the last year and my dad went out to see him a couple of months ago. Well, my dad kept me up to date on their communication but he never gave me his email or phone number.
Recently I was given access to a paid account on Ancestry.com and guess who was on there! So I wrote to him, introduced myself and made it very short. That was a month ago. He wrote to me tonight! He's coming here next month and I'll FINALLY GET TO MEET MY BROTHER!!!
Now I really won't be able to sleep LOL
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