Mille Cochin Info

[Fancy Feathers]

Mike, have you ever tried Nutra Drench for poultry? It is truely a miracle worker. A couple drops in her mouth 2 or 3 times in a day (usually) will pick them right up.

That's a good idea, or try worming, & check/treat for mites/lice.
With this cold weather I had slacked off checking, thinking the bugs would too. I was wrong. I've been worming/ putting Frontline on my whole flock. It never seems like you have very many birds at all, until you try treating your entire flock for something - then you realize maybe you have more birds then you thought you did?

Hello, my name is Amy and I have an addiction! To Cochins!

Well yeah, don't we all?

 

[JosieChick]

I would second the deworming/treating for mites. They don't seem to mind the cold one bit as long as their are warm birds to feed on. I think they might be even worse this time of year because the birds stay in the coops a lot more and don't have access to loose ground to dust bathe as often.

Hahahaha! I did the same thing last night. I treated everyone with pour on ivermectin and I was out there for a while! I thought I had sold a lot of birds this fall but there are still an awful lot of them out there! I almost missed a mille hen who was jammed between two giant black orpingtons. What a toasty spot she had for sleeping!

That's a good idea, or try worming, & check/treat for mites/lice.
With this cold weather I had slacked off checking, thinking the bugs would too. I was wrong. I've been worming/ putting Frontline on my whole flock. It never seems like you have very many birds at all, until you try treating your entire flock for something - then you realize maybe you have more birds then you thought you did?
Well yeah, don't we all?

 

[Fancy Feathers]

Where do you get the ivermectin? Locally or internet? How do you treat with it? I've heard a lot of people talk about it. I use Worminator, which probably isn't too expensive... if you don't keep dropping the bottle and spilling half of it!

 

[JosieChick]

Where do you get the ivermectin? Locally or internet? How do you treat with it? I've heard a lot of people talk about it. I use Worminator, which probably isn't too expensive... if you don't keep dropping the bottle and spilling half of it!

I just use the pour on ivermectin for cattle 5mg/ml in an 250 ml bottle from the feed store. It runs about $16 here. I do about a drop per pound on the back of the neck. So about 3-4 drops for bantams, 5-6 drops for LF and 7-8 drops for huge LF. Make sure to get it on the skin of the bird and where they can't reach to preen in it. Use a dosing syringe or eye dropper to apply it not the dosing cap it comes with for cattle. I always wear gloves and do a 3 week withdraw time on eggs/butchered birds for ivermectin. There is no posted withdraw because it has not been tested in poultry and it will only treat topical mites and lice but it is fantastic for that. I rotate through with frontline and adams flea spray too so I don't risk any resistance to a certain chemical.

I do use injectable ivermectin for deworming in their water a couple times a year too. Sounds like you have something that covers that but in case you want to use it I buy the Ivomec (ivermectin) injection for cattle and swine 1% sterile solution in a 50 ml bottle. Again off label for poultry so I do a 3 week withdraw, wear gloves when dosing. I use 4 mls per gallon of drinking water and leave the water out for 24 hours before changing to fresh water. You can re dose in 2 weeks time to catch any birds that re infect if you want to be extra safe. I believe a bottle runs about $35 at the feed store. Both are usually in the locked cabinet of animal drugs.

Of course I have dumped the bottle of ivermectin pour on several times too!! That is why I started doing it in the dark because the birds do a lot less flapping around when they are asleep! I just wear my head lamp so I have my hands free.

I need to get pics of the boys soon for you, they are growing like weeds!!! Both are crowing like crazy little things and I am so glad the more calico boy is doing well. He got a bad respiratory thing and it took a LONG time for him to shake it. I finally found an antibiotic that kicked it to the curb but I can't believe he survived through all that. He is a feisty little bugger now, probably from all the meds I had to give him!

 

[Fancy Feathers]

Thanks for that explaination! That really helps.
I read about a breeder/judge recommended Tylan 200 for respiratory infections, I bought some and when I hear a bird with the sniffles I give a dose, usually clears it right up immediately. I have one little Buff Barred cockerel I'm going to have to dose again, though. He loves snow, jumps outside everytime I open the coop door, and pecks at the snow on our boots everytime we walk in there, whether their waterer has just been freshly filled or not . He doesn't know snow isn't good for him. .
I can't wait to see pics of your boys!

 

[ki4got]

Quote: i use ivermectin injectable, both orally and spot on...

btw, ivermectin injectable is NOT water soluble... it is soluble in propylene glycol tho, which is the base used in the injectable version (ethylene glycol is the UNSAFE but similar version found in antifreeze). i have used glycerine in the past to dilute it and sweeten it a bit, but more for dogs and much smaller birds. (parakeet/cockatiel)

i buy .5cc insulin needles (50 pack) and pull the needle part off, just using the syringe. orally i give .2cc per bird, which will take care of any internal worms and also any blood-sucking external parasites including the scaly leg mite. the 50 pack allows me to fill all the syringes first, then i just go out and dose everyone at once while they're in bed...

about 2 weeks later i go thru and do a spot-on, using .4cc, placed under one wing (where the wing joins the body is a fairly bald spot that's easy to get to). that takes care of any other external parasites, such as lice that feed on the feather dander. (it also does absorb internally a bit too, acting as a backup dose to catch anything that might have been missed the first time around). i treat LF and bantams the same.

 

[County Boy]

 

[wwmicasa1]

Rem is a beautiful boy~!

 

[Fancy Feathers]

Thank you Karen! That does help too.

Beautiful trio you have, Mike!

 

[County Boy]

Rem is a beautiful boy~!

And I thank you lots for him!!!!!