Mille Cochin Info

[Msbear]

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I think my post got missed in the excitement...lol. Anyone have any input? Thanks a bunch!

I couldn't tell you if you are on the right track or not. It seems red has given your boy the wrong base color. We are shooting for orange vermillion which you get from the wheaten gene (I believe) I don't know what you mean by "color could be better" in your mottled hens. Do you mean they do not have enough mottling? I think you want a lightly mottled bird as a heavily mottled bird will give you too much white and no black line. Im not sure Im even right... just my best 2 cents

Anyway, I would get a typey buff columbian roo to put over those hens.

 

[leighhancock]

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I think my post got missed in the excitement...lol. Anyone have any input? Thanks a bunch!

I couldn't tell you if you are on the right track or not. It seems red has given your boy the wrong base color. We are shooting for orange vermillion which you get from the wheaten gene (I believe) I don't know what you mean by "color could be better" in your mottled hens. Do you mean they do not have enough mottling? I think you want a lightly mottled bird as a heavily mottled bird will give you too much white and no black line. Im not sure Im even right... just my best 2 cents

Anyway, I would get a typey buff columbian roo to put over those hens.

Well I am good then! The mottled hens are light/med mottled. The roo was really red. I am using a buff roo this year. Hopefully that will help! I love watchcing them grow! I ended up with more mottled babies this year than anything so if I have to start another pair I can. I just have to find that perfect roo!

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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I couldn't tell you if you are on the right track or not. It seems red has given your boy the wrong base color. We are shooting for orange vermillion which you get from the wheaten gene (I believe) I don't know what you mean by "color could be better" in your mottled hens. Do you mean they do not have enough mottling? I think you want a lightly mottled bird as a heavily mottled bird will give you too much white and no black line. Im not sure Im even right... just my best 2 cents

Anyway, I would get a typey buff columbian roo to put over those hens.

Well I am good then! The mottled hens are light/med mottled. The roo was really red. I am using a buff roo this year. Hopefully that will help! I love watchcing them grow! I ended up with more mottled babies this year than anything so if I have to start another pair I can. I just have to find that perfect roo!

As Msbear noted, typically in Mille Fleur, the Mh (Mahogany/Red) gene is not used. Basically what that gives you is Red Mottled. If you use a Buff roo, you will get a Buff Mottled. Most breeders have achieved the best results, as Msbear noted, by using a Buff Columbian x Mottled. The Co (Columbian) gene is used for proper placement of the coloring and mottling. I believe that with using the Buff Columbian, you will also introduce the Ml(Melantonic) gene, which is also needed.

All results are, of course, subject to what e-allele your birds are originally from: e+ (wild), eWh (wheaten), or eb (brown).

Sidebar: It is my understanding that all Mottling has the black bar separating the feather base color from the white tip. That is inherent in the Mo (Mottling) gene. It is the base color of the feather that determines if the black bar is visible or not.

(Hope I got all that correct - I'm at work right now, so working from memory, and haven't had my daily quota of coffee yet!)

 

[Msbear]

Gail, you're right about the black line being inherent w the mottling gene.

I do remember hearing a valid reason for using an undermarked mottled for mf breeding.. though cannot remember why

 

[georgialee]

Here's some pictures of the chicks I hatched from Mike's (bantyman) eggs - sorry about the quality... they were taken inside a closed coop with my cell phone, lol

This little guy is already crowing and MATING with his girls - at 9 weeks old!!! he's showing some great mottling and some nice red color in his hackle feathers... hope it doesn't end up being too red.

A pretty calico girl

I have 6 others that are showing great coloring with more and more chevrons showing up. Can't really tell on type yet but they have great foot feathering so far. They're such sweet birds!

 

[mjgigax]

MrsChickendad,
Those are some cute chicks. Checkout the pictures of the bantam cochin chicks at Yonder Oak Poultry - yonderoak.webs.com. Your brown headed chick looks like the gold laced chicks on their website. My nice Mille hen is from Yonder Oak.
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[mjgigax]

good info.!!!!!!
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Well I am good then! The mottled hens are light/med mottled. The roo was really red. I am using a buff roo this year. Hopefully that will help! I love watchcing them grow! I ended up with more mottled babies this year than anything so if I have to start another pair I can. I just have to find that perfect roo!

As Msbear noted, typically in Mille Fleur, the Mh (Mahogany/Red) gene is not used. Basically what that gives you is Red Mottled. If you use a Buff roo, you will get a Buff Mottled. Most breeders have achieved the best results, as Msbear noted, by using a Buff Columbian x Mottled. The Co (Columbian) gene is used for proper placement of the coloring and mottling. I believe that with using the Buff Columbian, you will also introduce the Ml(Melantonic) gene, which is also needed.

All results are, of course, subject to what e-allele your birds are originally from: e+ (wild), eWh (wheaten), or eb (brown).

Sidebar: It is my understanding that all Mottling has the black bar separating the feather base color from the white tip. That is inherent in the Mo (Mottling) gene. It is the base color of the feather that determines if the black bar is visible or not.

(Hope I got all that correct - I'm at work right now, so working from memory, and haven't had my daily quota of coffee yet!)

 

[magsrags]

Generally speaking about when do the bantam cochins start laying? Mine are hitting 5 months soon. I am hoping by fall?

 

[CrystalCoastCochins]

I thought it would be fun to show off some of the MF Chicks that I have hatched out this year. They are getting a little older and the color is really starting to show in some of them. I have a batch of younger ones too that I really need to get some pictures of. A lot of them are high white or what I think some people call calico. I am curious to see how they look when they get a little older. So far, I haven't been able to bring myself to sell any of them yet. I set September as the must sell date. I don't know if I am going to be able to do it or not. I plan to hang onto a few of them but at this point, I just can't decide who should stay and who should go.
I would love some outside opinions on who I should keep. I need all the help I can get. I will try and get some pictures of the younger guys sometime today. I would love opinions on them as well.

This one is my favorite of the bunch. Such a sweet sweet bird. I named her Cleo because she had the darkest "eyeliner" when she was a chick. I thought she would loose it but you can still see the stripe behind her eye.

Then I have this wierd looking chick. Actually, I have two of them and they look identical. I keep waiting for them to get more color but so far, this is all they've got.

 

[Msbear]

That wierd looking chick look an awful lot like a wheaten pullet