Minnesota!

[duluthralphie]

I am the one that was shocked at the price, I just didn't know what a home grown turkey goes for! I didn't think Ralphie did organic....

I don't do organic. I do no drugs or medication free range. It is too much hassle to do the organic stuff. I feed Marties non-medicated feed. Marties is a local feed store/mill.

I was trying to get someone to BITE on the 168 dollar price that is the price it would have been at 3.50 a pound if I charges BR for guts and feathers too. I gave him a friends and family discount. It still was a lot of money for a turkey.

He paid a little under 3 bucks a pound. I sold my chickens at 3.50 a pound last year raised the same way. I still doubt I make any money considering all the expenses. losses and so on.

With the turkeys I bought 4 that cost me nearly 40 bucks with tax, I lost 2. so I had 20 bucks into them before any feed. I have no idea what the feed conversion is, but if it is 4 to one, that is another 45 dollars in feed. They get expensive fast if free ranged and hand raised versus the 10,000 birds to a confinement building.

So if I got 90 bucks a bird, (which I did not) I would be making 5 dollars a month for caring for the bird..(not including electric and accessories like feeders and waterers.

 

[scandiafowl]

Was reading some more on the deep layer method at purepoultry.com, the author wrote that other than the poop board they clean the coop out twice per year.

Made me think.. Is that usual?

 

[Cebarmlds]

Even if a person feeds organic feed there is always that something, like scraps from the house or apples from a friends tree that they 'never spray' etc. so even doing the best you can they are never totally organic in my book. Then there's that government involvement always, so if they are fed organic and you sell them as organic- but you are not certified they'll get ya.

 

[scandiafowl]

Was reading some more on the deep layer method at purepoultry.com, the author wrote that other than the poop board they clean the coop out twice per year.

Made me think.. Is that usual?

https://www.purelypoultry.com/blog/the-deep-litter-method/

 

[Cebarmlds]

Was reading some more on the deep layer method at purepoultry.com, the author wrote that other than the poop board they clean the coop out twice per year.

Made me think.. Is that usual?

I wouldn't call that deep litter method, at least from what I've read about it, it's more involved than that and you really should only do deep litter on a soil floor.
Don't know for sure, i'm no expert I just read stuff ;p

edited to add: I posted before you posted the link so I havnt read it.

 

[KlopKlop]

Even if a person feeds organic feed there is always that something, like scraps from the house or apples from a friends tree that they 'never spray' etc.  so even doing the best you can they are never totally organic in my book.  Then there's that government involvement always, so if they are fed organic and you sell them as organic- but you are not certified they'll get ya.

Yes, 'organic' is a bought title for your products. Technically we are all organic as are all of our animals by definition - "characteristic of, pertaining to, or derived from living organisms"

 

[KlopKlop]

I should also say that small producers can use the term organic with no certification. I would have to dig around for the rules but I believe that if you sell less than so much product a year you can call it whatever you want.

So beware

 

[duluthralphie]

I should also say that small producers can use the term organic with no certification. I would have to dig around for the rules but I believe that if you sell less than so much product a year you can call it whatever you want.

So beware

I was not aware of that, I know in Minnesota we can sell up to 1,000 processed birds without inspection. (with a bunch of labelling crap on them). I thought we needed the certificate, but I refuse to play that game as erlibrd said, my birds get table scraps, and they love them.

 

[scandiafowl]

I should also say that small producers can use the term organic with no certification. I would have to dig around for the rules but I believe that if you sell less than so much product a year you can call it whatever you want.

So beware

http://www.mda.state.mn.us/en/food/organic/whatdoyoumean.aspx

 

[duluthralphie]

http://www.mda.state.mn.us/en/food/organic/whatdoyoumean.aspx

Is a grasshopper meat? If the grasshopper migrates in from somewhere and it was sprayed with an insecticide before my chicken unwisely decided to eat it, is the chicken still organic?


I am sorry, but it is a marketing ploy to yuppies in my mind and not real... Raised healthy and safely yes. but no one can guarantee "organic" for any critter or plant raised in the outdoors.