Minnesota!

its tooooo coooollllllld! dang it, I have some new pullets laying and you know how exciting that is - and the eggs are
cracked gol dang it!

Yesterday got seven eggs and 6 were cracked open before I could get home to get them. I guess I should focus on the positive and just be happy laying is starting to gear up.


When it gets this cold, there is a huge drop in the amount of feed being consumed. This makes no sense to me, shouldn't they want more food for fuel in their bodies? And it has never been true any other of the 15 or so winters I've had chickens. but this is the second time this winter when a big amount of feed is left uneaten at the end of the day.


Minniechickmama,....it sounds like you have found buckeyes to be a good dual purpose bird but you will still choose to order cornish x for your meat birds? so maybe the buckeyes cockerals might be meat...? do I have that right?

I agree, it seem contradictory that they eat less when it is colder, but that is what I have found to be true the last 3 years. However, it also depends on the condition of the water, I find. If their water is getting frozen much more (even my heated dog bowls will freeze over the top when it is this cold), then they will eat less. As soon as I freshen their water, they are eating like pigs again. I find this to be true also when they still have half a bowl of water and I freshen it up. So, I think that somehow they are related.

The biggest reason I continue to order CRX is because that is the only thing that will compete in the 4-H meat class. Since they are looking for the commercial qualities, one being feed conversion and efficiency, they will continue to dominate. My kids get to sell one market ribbon in our auction, and for them, it means they take the CRX, meat ducks or meat rabbits. We don't raise any large animals. I am not too crazy about the ducks with their constant mess, and the rabbits can be hit or miss with getting successful litters exactly when they should be kindled. (FYI if you have never bred rabbits, it isn't all that easy when you are trying to do it ;) ). The other reason is that for a baked bird, my family, including me, likes the CRX better for texture. I put a good number of culls in the freezer too, and when my kids are out of 4-H, I will likely have more of the culls than CRX in the freezer. The Buckeyes will dress out 4# or more around 24-weeks after being raised on pasture, and their drumsticks are quite sizable as well as their breast development. So, they really do dress out quite nicely as a DP breed.
 
I firmly believe that if you build 10 nestboxes for 50 hens, they will all fight over 3 or 4 of them. I must say though, if I were them and it were as cold as it has been this week, I can't say as I blame any of them for wanting to share a hole.
 
It's a new strain of Silkie Ralphie....
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You get to be the first one to reach under her and see if she has an egg.........ROFL
 
Wow so much to read in the couple hours I was gone!

I agree with you MinneChickMama on the "old" breeds versus the new ones. I think it is sad we have lost so many of the old breeds and what we call old breeds today would not be recognized by our ancestors of 150 years ago.

It is one of the reasons I want to get some Dominiques. I like the cute little combs and I liked barred chickens. If I ever get some I will keep them separate during breeding season so I can keep the line as pure as possible.

I understand the 4h thing with kids. We raised animals when our kids were young to conform to what the judges wanted at the fair too. Now I get to raise what I want that pleases me. Which is what I am doing.

I like the Cornish crosses because they are such sweethearts, it is a shame they are not designed to live longer. I will most likely buy some early to process and sell before the 4th of July. However, I plan to breed and raise my own eating birds. I still have hopes (fingers crossed) of my CX's breeding and laying eggs.

I cannot believe how into my birds I have gotten, I would rather stay with them than go to my cabin even, and that is sick!

I may have a problem here. I have a turkey Jake that has black marks on his head. I first thought it was blackhead and panic set in. Then I figured it was just the turkeys fighting with each other and opening sores that became frost bitten. Now I am back to possible blackhead, I just do not know. I have never heard of anyone getting blackhead in this immediate area. I would think with the cold the parasites would have a hard time surviving. I have no idea. Just guessing.

It is only one turkey that worries me right now, but one is too many. It is not weak, it is not off it's feed and continues to fight with all the other turkeys. When reading about blackhead it says the first thing you notice is a lethargic bird. I have not seen this and still do not.

I am going to error on the side of caution unless one of you tells me otherwise. I ordered 10 pounds of cayenne pepper from Amazon and am going to get some apple cider vinegar for the chickens.

I plan to lock the turkeys up with the guinea fowl and feed them de-wormer for about a week. The turkeys will not be happy, but that is life. I do not want to use de-wormer on the chickens.

I am not sure if I should de-worm the CX's or go with the pepper. Any suggestions are appreciated.
I would ask this in turkey thread and I might eventually, but I trust my fellow northerners more.

Thanks.
 
I've heard great things about Dunwoody. I think I had a few classmates go there. And what a good idea to farm out the build to some students striving for A's ! Hahaha. I bet they LOVED making a coop. We look forward to your pics!

~BTC
I was receiving (almost) daily updates from the instructor during the building process. He said the students were loving the project and was really glad I had reached out to them. I'm not the most handy guy (the one thing my wife missed out on when she married me - there's probably more but that's the one thing she mentions) and as luck would have it, NONE of the other husbands in the neighborhood are handy either. We certainly live in a dead zone part of Lakeville in that regard. I could build a coop but without true knowledge on how, I would rather have someone with the skills build it for the hens sake. Because I didn't have anyone to assist me with the knowledge of building a coop, I reached out to Dunwoody. The best part was because it was a class project, I didn't have to pay for the labor. All I paid for was the materials and even then I was given a discount as Dunwoody has special rates with home improvement stores.

I'm happy and so are the hens.
 
@duluthralphie do your birds range in low spots (pot holes, swamps, places that hold water in the summer?) if so it is possible they've picked Blackhead. The only thing is though...is that it hits turkeys hard and fast I've heard. Chickens can get it but not show dramatic symptoms and often recuperate whereas, Turkeys are dead within days. If you can take a picture of the turkey head that may be helpful. Do you think he got nipped by jack frost a bit?

Cayenne is a good idea. squash or pumpkin seeds, molasses. Those are the natural remedies and then also I'd get a probiotic/electrolyte water drench for a week or so. Get all those vitamins and minerals lined up to fight if there's a fight to be dealt with.

If he's more a pet than food and you want to consider medicating him: Flagyl (Fishzole) is the med you need followed by a good all round wormer Valbazen or Safegaurd that will get the cecal worms. I would only do this if you can confirm it's Blackhead and if he is a pet: Other symptoms are Cheesy caseous cecal droppings (from inflamed cecum) Yellow mucousy droppings, wet fluff. And definitely lethargy.

I had one chicken with Blackhead. She pretty much fought it off herself...but she was pretty sick with it. I thought I was going to lose her. Too many low spots around us.
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Bogtown Chick the turkey shows no signs of any illness, I have noticed the black spots on his head over a month ago now. There are no other symptoms.

At first I thought it was just battle injuries or frostbite and it could still be. His head is getting darker, but the way the young'uns fight I am amazed they are not all scabby, black and blue.

What I read made me think it would be fast and deadly with a turkey.


These guys have never been in the swamp that I know of, they hardly ever leave the chicken coop or the front steps. They are pets in the same way a goldfish is, if you plan to fillet and eat the goldfish. I like them and enjoy them I do not want to see them die, unless I am holding the axe over them.

I am on extremely sandy soil. Even if we get one of those 5 inch down pours the water is gone in 3 hours. I am surrounded by a swamp but it is also a sandy swamp, if that makes sense, a floating bog. It is about 1000 ft from the turkey area, and these guys never venture out of the yard. Lazy to the bone.
 
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Sounds like he's okay then. That's good.

Chickens that range in the low spots and come back and poo in the yard can bring it in to turkeys as well, I guess, from reading here on BYC. The parasite just sort of takes hold in the good soil too, via the carriers: chickens--> earthworms --> cecal worms. That's why some folks caution ranging turkeys with chickens. But I think your Sandy soil and good drainage may be your good luck on this.

I did tons of reading about it when Sylvia got it as you can tell....probably too much info.

But I'm thinking you don't need to worry.
 

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