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scandiafowl
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Ok. I got poultry - cal for calcium and grit. Duramycin for life and death. Wazine for a wormer. Omega egg maker for a supplement. Trap and toss and ultras held for flies. I need to go to a vet for the sulfa.hope I covered it.
I spoil them with raisins and birdseed for treats. I keep it under 10%.
Edited to fix spell check changes. Arrg.
Lois's comb seemed about the same at night and in the morning. Empty in the front and kind of puffy towards the back. She is a barred rock.
I spoil them with raisins and birdseed for treats. I keep it under 10%.
Edited to fix spell check changes. Arrg.
Lois's comb seemed about the same at night and in the morning. Empty in the front and kind of puffy towards the back. She is a barred rock.
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Don't quote me on this, but I think Wazine only gets roundworms. Safeguard and Valbazen are much more broad spectrum. I use valbazen, I think it gets just about every worm chickens can have.
Glad you told me. Going back in now.
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Shoot. ugh...I don't like feral cats and I care for their 'owners' less.
@The BlanchRanch you'll fiind the Safegaurd around $13 for a horse syringe and $50 for a bottle of valbazen that you will never use up before you have to throw it away. Good advice Foxy.
Scandia I get you and follow what you're saying. I live in a beautiful woods and I love seeing wild life and in essence I recognize my right to chose chickens to live in this territory is a disruption to that ecosystem. My chickens don't really belong--if you will. Transplanted in. But it's something I've chosen to do with our acreage and doing it 1/2 way wont work out so well for me. I make choices every so often based on imminent threat on my flock. Do I think a bear passing through my yard at night is a threat to 10 birds cooped up in a solid coop? Absolutely not. Do I think a crafty raccoon with hungry babies is a threat casing my coop at 8 o'clock at night and is going to come back and finish the job until I have nothing left? Absolutely. And those decisions we make on those are never easy. I think we come here for relief & support because it is not easy. And we try to make light because it's too hard to stay down in the dumpers about it. Because I think we all are essentially animal lovers, and it never feels good to take a life. But if we are practicing livestock husbandry then we owe it to our birds, our not-so-cheap hobby, to protect them/it.
I hope that makes sense. And I totally feel what you're saying. But don't let the light hearted tone on here fool you about our character.
At that price maybe I should buy a smaller amount from one of you folks. I don't think they have worms. How do you tell? Also what dosage would I use?
Thanks so much for the advice and so, so very much for not telling me to go out and buy some blinker fluid.
I am not tree hugger.
I like trees, I like wildlife, I like animals.
I find flaws in much of the tree hugger rule book. I am not a wanton murderer of anything. Live and let live in my motto.
One of the biggest flaws is thinking of man as the problem. We may be a part of the problem, but we are not the problem. Nature is cruel, there are winners and losers. On my little piece of God's earth I am ruler supreme. I will not allow a predator to destroy my subjects and devoted followers (the birds).
True, they do not belong here, I have changed the environment by even raising them here, they are not naturally here. MAYBE. Nature uses birds and animals to spread all kinds of species. Birds move fish from one body of water to another. Seeds are moved from an area a plant is abundant in to an area where they do not exist. Parasites hitch rides on all kinds of animals moving to a new area.
In the most basic sense I am an animal, a mammal. I change my environment to suit me. I am no different than a beaver, a beaver changes his environment to suit him. Termites in the plains build huge mounds, to change their environment to suit them.
Life and the earth are not static they are always changing. Weather and climate has always changed and always will, We can argue about the cause, but regardless it will change.
The number of prey animals is always dependent on the number of predators, the number of predators is dependent on the number of prey animals, it is a circle of life and we are part of it at this period in the earths history. I was either created or evolved as a omnivore, I eat meat and enjoy eating meat. I must either hunt for my meat and take a chance on "killing" whatever is in front of me to eat, Or I can raise what I want to eat. and do less harm to the circle of life outside of my little piece of earth.
I prefer to raise as much of my food as possible, I like to give my "food" the best possible life I can when I do raise it. That includes protecting it from predators and not forcing my food to live in a cage, regardless of how big or small it is.
When we eat anything whether it be a blueberry we picked in the woods, a deer we hunt ourselves, a fish we catch, or a bird we raise we have taken a small toll on the earth and her resources. Each person needs to decide for themselves what they can do to best sustain life, killing another creature is sometimes the best for the environment and the earth.
Harvesting an old tree is better for nature than letting it die with no purpose, Watching a forest fire burn killing millions of animals, birds, fish and insects to me is a waste of natures bounty. New growth restores and renews nature, whether the new growth comes from clear cutting or fire.
There is one thing to remember all life will go extinct at some point in history. Always has and always will be that way. The earth itself will be gone in a few more billion years, swallowed by the sun as it destroys itself.
I guess my point to this is nothing is static, nothing continues forever, we are not the enemy of the earth, we are just a part of the earth.
When I kill something, I feel bad for it, whether it is for food for me and my family or protecting my livestock, I thank God and the spirit/soul for every life I have ever taken, I hope I take them wisely.
That said whether it is a coon or a possum, a weasel or whatever killing my birds I will be glad it has gone to possum heaven or wherever a possum goes.
I do not buy the argument we are living in "their" world. We all live together on this world, they live in our world as much as we live in theirs.
Killing a predator that is harming my animals to me is on par with slapping a mosquito sucking my blood. In both cases killing may not be the only solution, but to me it is the best solution.
I can I can understand other points of view, I just respectfully disagree with them. I have a niece that is a vegan, I have yet to have her tell me why killing a celery plant is better than killing a chicken for supper. Until such time as we can eat rocks, something will die for us to live.
Not meant to start an argument, just meant to explain my point of view. I am sorry if it offended anyone when I talk of killing a fur bearing chicken eating critter. It is my nature, I am the apex creature at this time in earths history.
I like trees, I like wildlife, I like animals.
I find flaws in much of the tree hugger rule book. I am not a wanton murderer of anything. Live and let live in my motto.
One of the biggest flaws is thinking of man as the problem. We may be a part of the problem, but we are not the problem. Nature is cruel, there are winners and losers. On my little piece of God's earth I am ruler supreme. I will not allow a predator to destroy my subjects and devoted followers (the birds).
True, they do not belong here, I have changed the environment by even raising them here, they are not naturally here. MAYBE. Nature uses birds and animals to spread all kinds of species. Birds move fish from one body of water to another. Seeds are moved from an area a plant is abundant in to an area where they do not exist. Parasites hitch rides on all kinds of animals moving to a new area.
In the most basic sense I am an animal, a mammal. I change my environment to suit me. I am no different than a beaver, a beaver changes his environment to suit him. Termites in the plains build huge mounds, to change their environment to suit them.
Life and the earth are not static they are always changing. Weather and climate has always changed and always will, We can argue about the cause, but regardless it will change.
The number of prey animals is always dependent on the number of predators, the number of predators is dependent on the number of prey animals, it is a circle of life and we are part of it at this period in the earths history. I was either created or evolved as a omnivore, I eat meat and enjoy eating meat. I must either hunt for my meat and take a chance on "killing" whatever is in front of me to eat, Or I can raise what I want to eat. and do less harm to the circle of life outside of my little piece of earth.
I prefer to raise as much of my food as possible, I like to give my "food" the best possible life I can when I do raise it. That includes protecting it from predators and not forcing my food to live in a cage, regardless of how big or small it is.
When we eat anything whether it be a blueberry we picked in the woods, a deer we hunt ourselves, a fish we catch, or a bird we raise we have taken a small toll on the earth and her resources. Each person needs to decide for themselves what they can do to best sustain life, killing another creature is sometimes the best for the environment and the earth.
Harvesting an old tree is better for nature than letting it die with no purpose, Watching a forest fire burn killing millions of animals, birds, fish and insects to me is a waste of natures bounty. New growth restores and renews nature, whether the new growth comes from clear cutting or fire.
There is one thing to remember all life will go extinct at some point in history. Always has and always will be that way. The earth itself will be gone in a few more billion years, swallowed by the sun as it destroys itself.
I guess my point to this is nothing is static, nothing continues forever, we are not the enemy of the earth, we are just a part of the earth.
When I kill something, I feel bad for it, whether it is for food for me and my family or protecting my livestock, I thank God and the spirit/soul for every life I have ever taken, I hope I take them wisely.
That said whether it is a coon or a possum, a weasel or whatever killing my birds I will be glad it has gone to possum heaven or wherever a possum goes.
I do not buy the argument we are living in "their" world. We all live together on this world, they live in our world as much as we live in theirs.
Killing a predator that is harming my animals to me is on par with slapping a mosquito sucking my blood. In both cases killing may not be the only solution, but to me it is the best solution.
I can I can understand other points of view, I just respectfully disagree with them. I have a niece that is a vegan, I have yet to have her tell me why killing a celery plant is better than killing a chicken for supper. Until such time as we can eat rocks, something will die for us to live.
Not meant to start an argument, just meant to explain my point of view. I am sorry if it offended anyone when I talk of killing a fur bearing chicken eating critter. It is my nature, I am the apex creature at this time in earths history.
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