MJ's little flock

[ManueB]

Sorry I didn't respond to this point earlier MB.

I'm hoping she gets through it too.

She's quite old for a hybrid layer, maybe 3 years? I'm not surprised her reproductive system is trying to kill her. But at least she's had a cruelty-free life, first up on the river bank with my aunty's friends and recently at my place where she's had the pleasure of dominating all the other hens and being hypnotised by the washing machine.

3 is very young for any other type of chicken.

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My mistake, I thought she was only two. Three unfortunately is not the same for these hybrids. Indeed, she has had some rather interesting chicken adventures! I'm amazed they went willingly in the basket with no treats involved.

And you know I looked and looked and couldn't find the original source of my dosage. I'm quite angry as it's the third time I make that mistake, for Flubendazole (dewormer) I actually had to ask again on BYC as I just couldn't find anything coherent.
Pretty embarrassing when I spent most of my professional life telling students writing thesis or dissertations to hold on preciously from the start to all their references ! So now I swear I will systematically write the source of the dosage on the medication box.

 

[Shadrach]

My mistake, I thought she was only two. Three unfortunately is not the same for these hybrids. Indeed, she has had some rather interesting chicken adventures! I'm amazed they went willingly in the basket with no treats involved.

And you know I looked and looked and couldn't find the original source of my dosage. I'm quite angry as it's the third time I make that mistake, for Flubendazole (dewormer) I actually had to ask again on BYC as I just couldn't find anything coherent.
Pretty embarrassing when I spent most of my professional life telling students writing thesis or dissertations to hold on preciously from the start to all their references ! So now I swear I will systematically write the source of the dosage on the medication box.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/flubendazole-worming-dosages.75090/

 

[Shadrach]

Well, we're back from Joyce's vet appointment and now we have a diagnosis of EYP confirmed through a sample taken from within her swelling.

I took her on her own, thinking if she was egg bound, they might want to admit her. So it was a trip in the picnic basket.

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You can see her pain in her little face.

So she continues on Lincospectin. If she survives it'll be due to the linco.

Her next appointment, assuming she hasn't died in the meantime, is next Thursday morning.

I'm thinking some pain relief wouldn't go astray. Half a baby aspirin, if I recall correctly. I'll get some from the shop and give her a dose twice a day.

 

[ManueB]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/flubendazole-worming-dosages.75090/

I saw your article, but it adresses a pre made mix to add in the feed and refers to dosage for the amount of feed. What I needed was the amount of Flubendazole per kilo of chicken. It is given in Merck's manual which you linked to (1.43 mg per kilo for ascaridias) , but it didn't mention if the number of days was the same as for febendazole, or if this was just once. And the dosage I found on the french agency for medication safety wasn't coherent (3 mg/kg during 7 days : http://www.ircp.anmv.anses.fr/rcp.aspx?NomMedicament=FLUBENDAZOLE+3+PORC-VOLAILLE).

The answer I got on BYC was a reference to Catsportspony's post that gave a dosage for febendazole, however it seems the dosage isn't identical for both compounds...

 

[BY Bob]

I think I might put the red marauders in the big basket and bring them into the sleepout overnight until Joyce's EYP resolves one way or the other. I have a feeling she'll do better if she's not too cold.

Edit. After 10-15 minutes of inspections, they hopped in of their own accord.

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That's right Joycey, sleep in the basket tonight please.

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I waited another 10 minutes until they were fully settled then I shut the lid and put them on a shelf in the sleepout for the night.

How fortunate that they were willing to help like that. The chicken's cat-like curiosity works to your advantage!

 

[Shadrach]

I saw your article, but it adresses a pre made mix to add in the feed and refers to dosage for the amount of feed. What I needed was the amount of Flubendazole per kilo of chicken. It is given in Merck's manual which you linked to (1.43 mg per kilo for ascaridias) , but it didn't mention if the number of days was the same as for febendazole, or if this was just once. And the dosage I found on the french agency for medication safety wasn't coherent (3 mg/kg during 7 days : http://www.ircp.anmv.anses.fr/rcp.aspx?NomMedicament=FLUBENDAZOLE+3+PORC-VOLAILLE).

The answer I got on BYC was a reference to Catsportspony's post that gave a dosage for febendazole, however it seems the dosage isn't identical for both compounds...

If you read the article you would have seen that it is fairly trivial to work out an effective dosage based on the active ingredient Flubendazole for the weight of the chicken.
Flubendazole has a dosage tolerance of approximatley 10 X the recommended dose so worrying about being exact is rather pointless.

The number of dosage days is 7 for Flubendazol for all the various products contain the drug that I've seen. However, if one dosed for 10 days rather than 7 there would be no adverse effects with Flubendazole.
Common sense should show that any drug that is commonly mixed in with a feed is dosage tolerant.

The only really important factor is one doesn't underdose because that can lead to resistance in the species one is trying to kill off.

The variation is drug dosages is quite large depending on what the drug is, who prescribes it and what the problem one is trying to address is.

 

[Grammy60]

Good evening MJ and everyone

Sending more

 

[ManueB]

Common sense should show that any drug that is commonly mixed in with a feed is dosage tolerant.

I used a paste to syringe directly, dosed at 4.4%. I was not able to do the calculation based on your article which I did read. Sorry if I'm dense.

 

[rjohns39]

Good evening folks

 

[MaryJanet]

I'm amazed they went willingly in the basket with no treats involved.

How fortunate that they were willing to help like that. The chicken's cat-like curiosity works to your advantage!

Thanks to Joyce's appointments, it was their third night in the big basket, so I think they must be getting used to it.

It makes my life a lot easier if I don't have to pick them up because I don't need to worry about hurting either of them, especially Joyce.