MJ's little flock

[BY Bob]

Just hateful when chickens start acting like high school girls and their cliques

It is remarkably similar behavior.

 

[MaryJanet]

There will be tiny amounts of antibiotic in the eggs. Some will be in the yolk and some in the white. It tends to clear the white first and remain longer in the yolks. The theory is that ingesting small amounts of antibiotics can lead to resistant bacteria in humans.

Whenever you use an antibiotic on bacteria a small percentage of those bacteria will start to develop resistance. That is why it is especially important to complete the full course of antibiotic even after you feel better. You need to kill off all you can before the resistance develops. I believe that the most probable cause of antibiotic resistance in humans is just this. Incomplete courses of antibiotics because people feel better. And don't get me started on antibiotics prescribed for viral infections how that compounds this problem.

So how does this play out here with tiny amounts antimicrobials in eggs? The theory is that you are not taking a full course and therefore exposing bacteria in your body to just enough antibiotic for them to develop resistance without killing them off. To say I am skeptical is to put it mildly.

Let's talk process. For these tiny amounts of antibiotic to reach the bacteria they have to survive the acid in your stomach without protection. If you think back to when penicillin was first discovered it was administered by shot. Why? We had not yet found a way to get the antibiotic past the acid in your stomach intact. In pill form we protect an antibiotic from the acid in your stomach in order for it to be absorbed successfully. No antibiotic in that egg is likely to survive on it's own and if some were to make it through, we are now reaching the point where you probably get a higher dose from that antimicrobial hand wash you are using by licking your hand afterwards.

So you asked for my opinion. Instead I have tried to explain how this all works and how I perceive the risks. I have done that so you can make an informed decision on your own.

We eat the eggs.

One last note, if you are allergic to penicillins, I would not eat the eggs. Small does of allergens can cause anaphylaxis and it is just not worth the risk.

Thank you so much for sharing your expertise @BY Bob I'm very grateful for the time you've taken to explain it to me. I feel much, much more informed now.

 

[MaryJanet]

Good evening MJ

That she continues to get better

Me too. Fingers and toes. Glad there's a surgical option should all else fail.

 

[Ribh]

There will be tiny amounts of antibiotic in the eggs. Some will be in the yolk and some in the white. It tends to clear the white first and remain longer in the yolks. The theory is that ingesting small amounts of antibiotics can lead to resistant bacteria in humans.

Whenever you use an antibiotic on bacteria a small percentage of those bacteria will start to develop resistance. That is why it is especially important to complete the full course of antibiotic even after you feel better. You need to kill off all you can before the resistance develops. I believe that the most probable cause of antibiotic resistance in humans is just this. Incomplete courses of antibiotics because people feel better. And don't get me started on antibiotics prescribed for viral infections how that compounds this problem.

So how does this play out here with tiny amounts antimicrobials in eggs? The theory is that you are not taking a full course and therefore exposing bacteria in your body to just enough antibiotic for them to develop resistance without killing them off. To say I am skeptical is to put it mildly.

Let's talk process. For these tiny amounts of antibiotic to reach the bacteria they have to survive the acid in your stomach without protection. If you think back to when penicillin was first discovered it was administered by shot. Why? We had not yet found a way to get the antibiotic past the acid in your stomach intact. In pill form we protect an antibiotic from the acid in your stomach in order for it to be absorbed successfully. No antibiotic in that egg is likely to survive on it's own and if some were to make it through, we are now reaching the point where you probably get a higher dose from that antimicrobial hand wash you are using by licking your hand afterwards.

So you asked for my opinion. Instead I have tried to explain how this all works and how I perceive the risks. I have done that so you can make an informed decision on your own.

We eat the eggs.

One last note, if you are allergic to penicillins, I would not eat the eggs. Small does of allergens can cause anaphylaxis and it is just not worth the risk.

I wish people would always explain like this! Thanks, Bob!

 

[BY Bob]

I wish people would always explain like this! Thanks, Bob!

I am glad that my explanation helped. I wanted you to be comfortable making your own decision. If doctors would take the time to explain the why, I think people would be much more compliant and diligent with their therapies.

 

[MaryJanet]

A careful and detailed conversation with an expert can work wonders amidst the constant stream of information.

 

[Ribh]

I am glad that my explanation helped. I wanted you to be comfortable making your own decision. If doctors would take the time to explain the why, I think people would be much more compliant and diligent with their therapies.

It's not just access to information ~ it's being able to process & comprehend said information. Unfortunately logic isn't taught as a subject ~ & it should be. It won't be because it would topple a lot of governments!

 

[MaryJanet]

May I check another detail @BY Bob ? Do antibiotics fade out with time or remain permanently? I been taking it for granted they're digested and absorbed like food, with nothing remaining once that's done. Would I have antibiotics in me after my last course, which was 14 months ago?

 

[MaryJanet]

It's not just access to information ~ it's being able to process & comprehend said information. Unfortunately logic isn't taught as a subject ~ & it should be. It won't be because it would topple a lot of governments!

I think about learning every day. Some of the young people I try to educate are increasingly preoccupied. For them, social media has made life performative rather than deeply authentic. They're minds are on their next post instead of on the learning. I was talking to a colleague yesterday who makes similar observations. I'm afraid I think that even if logic were taught as a subject in schools, it wouldn't make much difference. Look how Australian kids are tanking on literacy and numeracy at present. These basics are both taught well and highly prized. But the learning doesn't last.

 

[Ribh]

I think about learning every day. Some of the young people I try to educate are increasingly preoccupied. For them, social media has made life performative rather than deeply authentic. They're minds are on their next post instead of on the learning. I was talking to a colleague yesterday who makes similar observations. I'm afraid I think that even if logic were taught as a subject in schools, it wouldn't make much difference. Look how Australian kids are tanking on literacy and numeracy at present. These basics are both taught well and highly prized. But the learning doesn't last.

I've worked in education most of my life one way or another so I can get irate rather quickly. Apologies beforehand in case that happens.

We have become outcomes focused rather than skills based. Most learning is not retained because it is not needed all the time but a skills set gives you the tools to retrieve, recall, or relearn as necessary.

I taught remedial reading & I learnt fast not all children learn using the most common method in fad @ the time so I always added a phonics component. It is a tool, one of several that can be used for breaking down a word into it's component parts for spelling, comprehension & pronunciation.

Logic is a skill to help analyze, sort, comprehend information.

The lack of skill sets is 1 reason why I ended up homeshooling & that is the child who, much to her chagrin, ended up with the best education. When she was doing Boudicca @ La Boite she prefaced her invitation to the performance with: Mum, it's not historically accurate you know... And none of mine will watch historical movies with me...

NAPLAN should be ditched. It has not helped & IMO made things a good deal worse because~ surprise, surprise~ it is outcomes focused. OK, hopping down off my hobby horse now.