My 4-H Poultry Leader Said....

My boys showed chickens in 4H. We bathed them a week before the show. We sprayed them with Adams Flea and Tick spray to repell bugs while at the show. We sprayed them again before we brought them home to keep them from bringing anything home to the flock. The chickens got blue ribbons. None had lice or mites.
 
I'd say go for the leadership!! i was in 4H, its awesome and it seems like you may know more then the current learder.
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Did your son come home and tell you what his leader said?
Or were you there and actually heard the man yourself?

I've got nine kids
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and after awhile, *nothing* amazed me when it was repeated second hand.
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I took everything they said with a grain of salt.
The worst was when one of my kids would tell me what he/she had said to another adult as a quote from me! yikes! Oh, my gosh.... I don't know where these kids get some of their ideas. Sometimes I'd have to make a phone call, and explain that my brilliant child hadn't quite gotten the quote correct...

Carla
 
It has been a number of years since I have used Sevin, but I do remember being told NOT do use around the head. I would ask the person what he meant by shake and bake. If he restates the same process to you, report him to the higher ups. My grand daughter is a 4-H member and I know what she would say if any leader told her to shake and bake her chickens. We would most likely have to have her eating soap for months to wash all the dirty words from he mouth. Worst of it is, she probably heard me using them.
 
Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised to find out this leader actually did say this.

My kids were in 4H and FFA for many years. My daughter had a special dislike for one of her FFA leaders who was very unkind to pigs. My daughter wouldn't let him near hers. Sometimes you wonder why people choose the vocation they do.

This is not a dig at all leaders in either group. I'm sure there are outstanding ones. There are also some real ______.
 
if this leader is saying it won't hurt them to do that bologna!! i use it on my chooks for sever cases of it. let me tell ya when i first got in one of my small flocks from a breeder they where infested beyond infested with lice and mites. i used sevin dust on them after we bathed them and i was in shorts and a t-shirt with a mask on, it was the first time i was ever exposed to sevin dust. we got done about 5pm and by 2 am i was being rushed to the hospital by ambulance for a sever chemical reaction from it touching my skin.

my throat was swelling shut, i had hives and welts from head to toe. it took 50mg of benadryl waiting for the ambulance that got lost and my asthma inhailer to just get me to the hospital. i couldn't find my epipen. after i got there they gave me a shot in the hip of steroids, more benadryl, ephidreen and a pain med because i was swollen every where with celulitous, huge hive and welts from my scalp to my toes and was in anifalctic shock from it. all that from playing with 1 chicken holding it who had barely been dusted with it outside in the open hours prior to that.

if it can do that much to a human think of what it could do to a chicken it is a toxic pesticide they shouldn't eat it or inhale it ever. anyone who uses it should use extream causion and i do not recomend children useing it. my dh only uses it if i won't be around the chickens so i don't ever have to deal with that horrible experience again.

sevin dust kills bugs usually within 24 hours. i reccomend adams flea and tick spray or DE, it may take a little longer 2-3 days to get them all but if i do them that's what i use it is safer for them and definately me and my kid's.

i say apply for leader and get that quack out of there before he hurts animals and kid's!! if they don't believe ya it's toxic pm me and i'll send you my phone # to have them call me, i'm a state licensed poultry tech and i assure it is toxic and his method is extreamly dangerous to those birds.
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I'm the leader for my group and county. It's amazing what some leaders don't know. Try this one on *goats, btw*
(Let's just call this boy John)
Me: Ok guys, so what do you do if your goat gets bloat?
Kids:...
Me: Come on guys, we talked about this at the last meeting.
John, son of the leader: You're supposed to poke it in the stomach with a needle, right? To get the gas to come out, right?
Me:John, where'd you hear that from?
John: My mom told me, she said that it won't want to walk around because it's stomach will hurt, so you should poke it with a needle first.

Yeah, that was interesting.
 
Lice on the inside?

I would put him in a bag and shake him up.

If I didn't see lice on my chickens I wouldn't treat them. However, the day before taking them to the show I would powder them a little with some sevin just in case the other birds did have lice.
 
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