My daughter is allergic to PB....can I feed old PB to our chickens?

[drumstick diva]

I hate to waste anything but, in the case of allergies, I would dump the peanut butter. I would never have it in the house at all, if someone had an allergy to it.

 

[Illia]

Yes, it's a risk, but consider this -


ALL chicken eggs sold at the store are from hens who eat a whole ton of soy products, and yet, there's no warning label at all on the cartons.

Good point, but, I wouldn't personally risk it.

 

[redhen]

Dont toss it!! Give it to the other animals... got dogs??
Or even the wild birds.. squirrels..

 

[gale65]

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That is our comfort zone. I just simply do not buy things that are not safe for my dd. I feel that home is her safety zone. A place where she should not have to worry about her allergy. So the rest of us avoid too but none of us mind.

I do buy myself some Japanese foods that I wouldn't trust her to have because of questionable labeling, but never anything with nuts or labeled for cross contamination, and she wouldn't want to eat any of it anyway. I keep it put up and only eat it after the kids go to bed.

 

[SteveBaz]

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Not trying to be rude but have you dealt with a peanut allergy? Like I posted earlier in this thread I have a son who is allergic to peanuts. I also have spent hours in the emergency room with him when he had a reaction. Why would you even want to take the chance of something happening? I think the origianl poster had the best idea of just throwing it away.

I am sorry you have allergies and it sounds like you have terrible issues with PB. I have PBJ's 1 to 2 times per week with my grand daughter with glasses of milk and we throw her crusts out to the chickens and they have no issues eating every little morsel. My point is that with all things being equal everyone is a bit different and the Original Poster just said what would you do and I said it, "make a small flock block to see if they like it". If the Original Poster said they are allergic I believe I would do as you suggested. I think if the large containers are new but the shelf life tag on it has expired based on the federal governments saying it needs to be discarded really doesn't mean it is spoiled to the point it will make you ill but suggests that according to the FDA the product needs to go from the shelf to protect the general public from buying an old product but these are unopened tubs of PB and that also hints that they could be used for consumption. I am sorry but we must agree to disagree. In this case and still feel if it were me I would "make a small flock block to see if they like it". Peace

 

[evenstargirl]

I agree, I also wouldn't risk it.... My husband has what the doctors call "idiopathic anaphylaxis" -- basically, he goes into anaphylactic shock, but we have no idea what is causing it. It is VERY frustrating! The last four times he's had it, he's been eating chicken. The last time was a close call.... We barely made it to the Emergency Room before he blacked out. His Epi pen didn't help. So we are crossing off eating chicken. Which is so sad for me.

Our specialist thinks it is an exercise-induced allergy. Any physical activity before eating chicken (or whatever it is) may (or may not) cause a massive allergic reaction.

It is very, very frustrating. If we knew for sure what to avoid, we would avoid it. So now we are ruling out anything he's been eating when he's gone into anaphylactic shock -- turkey, tuna, chicken so far. It could also be something as simple and elusive as a spice in something. He is also allergic to nuts.

Good luck.... I know how frightening allergies can be. Last week, when my husband had his really bad reaction, the nurse chewed me out for not calling the ambulance and instead driving him myself. The ambulance would have taken half an hour to get here from the next county over. I was able to get him to the hospital in 12 minutes. He was already shutting down when we got there. He could hardly breathe. I was so frustrated. I think people who don't have to deal with this often don't understand. It can literally boil down to a matter of seconds.

 

[SteveBaz]

Did I misunderstand? I am not trying to be difficult but does the allergy doctor say if a chicken eats PB it will have PB remnant in the meat it provides? If a chicken eats PB will the eggs it produces have PB oils in the eggs? PB like other proteins (nut proteins) are good for many things in the body but the digestive system does not think its PB it thinks its a protein and ingests it into the blood stream like any other protein. If an animal is given an organic protein does the body that eats it distinguish it any different than a non organic protein? I do understand the difference between free range chickens and farm fed but like we are discussing PB. Did the Allergy doctor say to you to only feed organic foods to you allergy effected daughter (not being rude just curious)? We have no allergies in the family genes so I can not say from personal experience as said by OP that have some I, must admit extreme allergies, are they on special diets by doctors that say do not eat foods that have been fed by specific foods like PB? Being fed to the animal that is being eaten is different than eating that specific product and in this case its PB. Am I not getting something? I am not being cold or calculated or argumentative here but discussing a subject with you folks. I am not suggesting that the young lady that has the allergy make the flock block herself but only to use it so that it is not wasted. I buy flock blocks for the girls and believe they are made with molasses. If all the content was made with PB instead of molasses and not by the young lady but by the mother or father or others that do not have the allergies and the chickens liked it do you really believe there would be the harmful thing that she is allergic to in the meat of the bird or in the eggs it produces? I feel this would be a good question to ask the allergy specialist? Don't you?

 

[gale65]

SteveBaz-I think if you haven't lived with the fear of this allergy you can't understand how bad it can be. For example, if a chicken ate some of a flock block and got some peanut butter on their beak, and then went to lay an egg, and moved the egg around with their beak after, there would be peanut protein on the egg. Or if they walked on the flock block or where the flock block previously sat, they would have it on their feet, which could then be spread all over the place. Even if it's a minute amount that can't be seen it's still there and it may be enough to cause a deadly reaction. Then the OP's daughter goes to gather eggs and touches this egg or pets the chicken or picks it up and it has the proteins on its feet or feathers. Just touching it can cause a reaction. Then if she touches a surface that she touches later before eating, that is ingestion. It doesn't matter that it isn't very much. Traces can kill. That's why some people who are allergic avoid things that are made in the same facility as something with nuts. It's that bad. My daughter got horrible hives just from walking past a bin of peanuts. With most food allergies you have to actually ingest to have a reaction, but for some (peanut, tree nut, fish, shellfish) and for some people, just touching or inhaling is enough.

In our case I think if it was me with the allergy, I would take more chances. When it's my child, I'll do anything to keep her from having a reaction of any kind. Even a mild one.

 

[gale65]

also, organic has nothing to do with allergies, unless the allergy is to a chemical that is used on non-organic crops.

 

[Dar]

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make seed balls for the squirrels and wild birds... instead of lard use the peanut butter

http://www.ehow.com/how_4557604_make-bird-seed-balls.html