my gander is bleeding from his leg help please

[Miss Lydia]

I'm dreading breeding season. Opie is just a tough guy lol. Poor Sam I'm sure that must mess with his ego.I wonder how Missy feels when that happens? My dog Causey (that had attacked Cheese) ended up getting into the puppy pen and killing them all when I had gone to work one night. My bf was gone to a friends and called me at like 2 in the morning and told me about it. I was so sick to my stomach about it I ended up getting sick and left work early. Then a few hours after I had got home I brought the dogs out and went to chain him up and Imust not of hooked him all the way or something and he got loose. My Amish neighbors ended up shooting him. It was the worst day ever. It was back on Halloween that happened. That's what I think keeps happening too. She doesn't even walk normal so I think that's why she gets picked on is because she is so different.

I'm so sorry to hear this, and awful for it to have been killed but seems that he may have not been a good one to have around. What breed was he? I know you had to have been heart broken.

Yesterday when Opie was on Sam I heard Missy making a mournful noise and went out to investigate that's when I saw Sam just laying there letting Opie chew on his neck not even brutal just standing over him chewing. very strange.

 

[ducklover87]

I'm so sorry to hear this, and awful for it to have been killed but seems that he may have not been a good one to have around. What breed was he? I know you had to have been heart broken.

Yesterday when Opie was on Sam I heard Missy making a mournful noise and went out to investigate that's when I saw Sam just laying there letting Opie chew on his neck not even brutal just standing over him chewing. very strange.

He was doing well but I was also fostering another dog at the time and I think that having another dog around who didn't know any better kinda voided all his training that I had put in. He was a German Shepherd. Not the best breed to have around due to there high prey drive but he was slowly getting there. Thank you Miss Lydia. I was so very heartbroken. I had lost 11 babies including him within a 12 hr period. I was devastated and cried for days. I think it was a whole week that I had cried my self to sleep. It was a very terrible experience that i wouldnt ever wish upon someone. I blamed myself for his death and still do. That just makes it that much worse. That is very strange indeed. I wonder if its because of Sam's age and it not being breeding season yet as to why he's letting Opie get away with it.

 

[livininbrazil]

He was doing well but I was also fostering another dog at the time and I think that having another dog around who didn't know any better kinda voided all his training that I had put in. He was a German Shepherd. Not the best breed to have around due to there high prey drive but he was slowly getting there. Thank you Miss Lydia. I was so very heartbroken. I had lost 11 babies including him within a 12 hr period. I was devastated and cried for days. I think it was a whole week that I had cried my self to sleep. It was a very terrible experience that i wouldnt ever wish upon someone. I blamed myself for his death and still do. That just makes it that much worse. That is very strange indeed. I wonder if its because of Sam's age and it not being breeding season yet as to why he's letting Opie get away with it.

Hey Ducky, just catching up on the threads. You poor soul. How sad for you. Was your pup chasing your neighbours´ livestock? Pups are such hard work and so easily led. What a bad experience for you, but that´s life, eh?

Just out of interest, a German Shepherd shouldn´t have a strong prey drive, as they´re a herding dog. Once trained, they should generally do well. Just sometimes the herding instinct in a youngster doesn´t know where to stop!

I have some fairly large mixed-everything dogs. The have pitbull, german shepherd, poss lab, and whatever else in them, and when they were tiny pups they were always with the chickens, ducks etc to get them used to them. No problems.
Then at 8 months they turned into thugs. From time to time when we would leave the house, we´d come back to a dead bird. Never eaten, just killed. They would never enter the birds´ runs, but a bird would get out somehow and then get killed. They killed a few pullets, 2 ducks, one I think was flying down to land and the dog bit it in the chest, because there was only one bite on her, must have got her heart. They badly injured a turkey that I had to put down. I did training on a lead, treats for ignoring, all the normal stuff, reprimand if caught in the act of showing interest, which was difficult, because actually they were more interested in the poop and the eggs! Well, they grew up. They´re now 2 years old, and although I don´t trust them totally, they´re absolutely fine with the chickens and geese, but I think the wagging tail of the ducks provokes attention. The second duck to get killed was when we´d gone out, and came home to find dead. It was the last bird that they managed to kill. She was up the top near the house, she was a very inquisitive duck that would come over the fence looking for food. The dogs were used to her, but this time....she was just too confident. Just a couple of bites on her back. Then they left her where she was. Pups are hard work for sure. You´re not alone!

We´ve built a run for the dogs and whenever we go out they get shut in it, sometimes for the whole day, as I still don´t trust them to behave themselves.
But sometimes they surprise me. The other day i saw my biggest dog (the worst with chicks) watching something intently. It was three little tiny Brahmas that had found a hole in the fence big enough for them to squeeze through and there he was about two yards away, just watching them. He´s improving.

One of my neighbours here has a huge black year-old GS and it´s a terror. If it gets out of its run at night it gets another neighbour´s birds out of their roosts. Takes them home for breakfast.

Another neighbour here has 5 GSs and keeps chickens and horses and cows, and the dogs are used to herd the horses but they don´t touch the chickens.

A bit like a Border Collie. Given enough to do, they can be great dogs, but some can be terrors. Have you seen people training Borders Collies to herd Indian Runner ducks? It´s great.

 

[livininbrazil]

I'm so sorry to hear this, and awful for it to have been killed but seems that he may have not been a good one to have around. What breed was he? I know you had to have been heart broken.

Yesterday when Opie was on Sam I heard Missy making a mournful noise and went out to investigate that's when I saw Sam just laying there letting Opie chew on his neck not even brutal just standing over him chewing. very strange.

I take it Opie is the dominant drake? Muscovy drakes can be a handful can´t they? I quite like mine and keep him just because he´s so easy-going, though once he did fly at the young gander, but that came to nothing. Since then there´s not been any problem, but then the geese flock together if there´s any nonsense going on! One drake I had before was a horror, he found a new home on someone´s table!

 

[Miss Lydia]

I take it Opie is the dominant drake? Muscovy drakes can be a handful can´t they? I quite like mine and keep him just because he´s so easy-going, though once he did fly at the young gander, but that came to nothing. Since then there´s not been any problem, but then the geese flock together if there´s any nonsense going on! One drake I had before was a horror, he found a new home on someone´s table!

Yes Opie is the dominant drake and although he does like to throw his weight around so to speak he really is a good boy and won't end up on ours or anyone else's table.

Maybe it is Sam's age although at 6.5yrs he should still be pretty tough guy. But last year even during mating he would stand up to Opie and Opie always ended up on top I'd go out and get Opie off of him. I can't explain it.

 

[livininbrazil]

Yes Opie is the dominant drake and although he does like to throw his weight around so to speak he really is a good boy and won't end up on ours or anyone else's table.

Maybe it is Sam's age although at 6.5yrs he should still be pretty tough guy. But last year even during mating he would stand up to Opie and Opie always ended up on top I'd go out and get Opie off of him. I can't explain it.

He just thinks he´s the boss then. And looks like he thinks right too!

Well I suppose as long as Sam keeps his head down, no problems...I wonder if that´s why you didn´t get any fertile eggs though? Could it be that as soon as Sam starts to mate with Missy, maybe the drake sorts him out? Have you noticed?

 

[Miss Lydia]

He just thinks he´s the boss then. And looks like he thinks right too!

Well I suppose as long as Sam keeps his head down, no problems...I wonder if that´s why you didn´t get any fertile eggs though? Could it be that as soon as Sam starts to mate with Missy, maybe the drake sorts him out? Have you noticed?

The drakes well only one would even attempt[Opie] have never messed with Sam and Missy when they have been mating, The other 3 drakes are scared of Missy and Sam. Not sure on the non fertile eggs but with Breeding season right around the corner we'll soon find out if they will be viable this year or not.

 

[livininbrazil]

The drakes well only one would even attempt[Opie] have never messed with Sam and Missy when they have been mating, The other 3 drakes are scared of Missy and Sam. Not sure on the non fertile eggs but with Breeding season right around the corner we'll soon find out if they will be viable this year or not.

Yes, maybe keep an eye out on Opie and see if he´s interfering with their mating or not. Exciting, eh? Maybe I´ll soon be reading about all your adventures with your little fluff-balls......

 

[Miss Lydia]

Yes, maybe keep an eye out on Opie and see if he´s interfering with their mating or not. Exciting, eh? Maybe I´ll soon be reading about all your adventures with your little fluff-balls......

We shall see.

 

[livininbrazil]

We shall see.