MY grades and parents

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I'm not sure how I weigh in on this . . . by the time my daughter is 18+, I would expect that she be responsible enough to take care of this. I mean, she'd have all those years with me beside her, teaching her how to be responsible. If she didn't get it by 18, I would be deeply concerned to send her to college at that time. I would encourage her to take a few years off and get some life experience before wasting money. On the hand, I understand if I'm paying for her school that I'd want her to do her best. But if her best is a C, then that's what it is.

Sorry to sidetrack.

Well, if a scholarship is paying tuition, they typically have grade expectations that must be met to retain the scholarship, so they are informed. As a parent who is paying, I too have grade expectations that I feel should be met, but if my child is 18 or older, then they will not tell me. BTW, my son was a young 17 when he started college.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Bosses do give "grades." It is called a job evaluation, and results in raises and layoffs and firings. As an adult, you're expected to tell your spouse or other interested parties as you see fit. However, for a minor I would be absolutely livid if my child's grades were not sent to me. For that matter, if I am paying tuition and expenses for college, I would be/am livid that the grades are not provided directly.

Yep, and almost invariably those "bosses" evaluations are just as subjective and meaningless as a teacher's opinion. Let's see you give truly meaningful "grades/evaluations" to 200 children every six weeks.

Not necessarily. Many companies and bosses are driven by the bottom line: how has this employee contributed to the profitability of the company? Certainly there are plenty that aren't, but are rather about brown-nosing and who you know. That's when it's time for a transfer to a different boss.

If you have planned goals and syllabus it shouldn't be that hard at any given time to provide an accurate evaluation of any student's graded work.

My older son (graduated high school in 2003) and my high school junior have both had online grades available throughout their high school carreers. However it was always optional. This year they FINALLY made it mandatory for the teachers to use and update the online grading system weekly. Typically the teachers that didn't use it were always the hardest ones to reach--wouldn't use email and frequently didn't return phone calls.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Some schools use an E instead of an F.

Really? Is it to tone down the harshness of an F? In the district where my mother works, teachers are no longer allowed to grade papers with the color red, since it's too severe on the children, whatever that means. They have to use purple, blue, or green. It's pretty absurd.

Possibly, although if you think about it, why A, B, C, D, F? Where did E disappear to? Other schools use numbers (1, 2, 3, 4) or percentages (which makes more sense than anything else).

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I realize that this is for a laugh, but the reality is that I would lose respect for someone who would be bribed. THere are more legitimate ways of nudging those .5 points: extra credit for those who choose to do so; dropping the lowest grade which allows everyone the opportunity for an uncharacteristic blunder, curving the grades, allowing students to re-take tests when they feel that they can improve the grade, ...

 

[MonkeyZero]

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You're a boy???????? All this time, I thought your avatar was YOU!

And I hated you for it.

I like you now!

LOL
No, shes my fave singer-ayumi hamasaki
Even though i have a slight bit tanner skin then her, our facial features are very similar... I get told I look like her. Its good and bad for me. I look like my fave singer, but like a girl....(i try not to....)

Well the grade on the report was a c
She has never ever handed back papers...
Parents yelled at me, but havent given me a punishment... yet...

 

[3goodeggs]

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I realize that this is for a laugh, but the reality is that I would lose respect for someone who would be bribed. THere are more legitimate ways of nudging those .5 points: extra credit for those who choose to do so; dropping the lowest grade which allows everyone the opportunity for an uncharacteristic blunder, curving the grades, allowing students to re-take tests when they feel that they can improve the grade, ...

See, Mr. Redford, that's why you HAVE to use smilies!

 

[joebryant]

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Yep, and almost invariably those "bosses" evaluations are just as subjective and meaningless as a teacher's opinion. Let's see you give truly meaningful "grades/evaluations" to 200 children every six weeks.

Not necessarily. Many companies and bosses are driven by the bottom line: how has this employee contributed to the profitability of the company? Certainly there are plenty that aren't, but are rather about brown-nosing and who you know. That's when it's time for a transfer to a different boss.

If you have planned goals and syllabus it shouldn't be that hard at any given time to provide an accurate evaluation of any student's graded work.

My older son (graduated high school in 2003) and my high school junior have both had online grades available throughout their high school carreers. However it was always optional. This year they FINALLY made it mandatory for the teachers to use and update the online grading system weekly. Typically the teachers that didn't use it were always the hardest ones to reach--wouldn't use email and frequently didn't return phone calls.

...how has this employee contributed to the profability... ...online grades available...
None of that means anything other than gibberish from some school's PR people. Everything you've listed is subjective and/or based on teacher-made tests, and someone's having goals and a syllabus do not necessarily provide an accurate evaluation, and it's for sure that an "online grading system" wouldn't make a hill of beans difference about anything

 

[Kelly G]

Sometimes life isn't fair. Really, it's true.

And there really are crappy, incompetent teachers (my husband and I are both teachers) that really shouldn't be teaching anymore (or maybe ever).


As a parent now, I tell my kids that even though they may have a crappy teacher (I may not use that exact word!), they are still responsible for learning the material. It happens a lot in colleges, too. But it's still important to learn...even if the teacher isn't doing their job.

On another note (pun intended!)- do you think your going to end up a counter-tenor? One of my best friends is...and we've had some fun with that.

Kelly...and this won't mean much to most people, but Monkey Zero might get it....
Mezzo Soprano
Julliard 1990

 

[Boyd]

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I'm mean like that.

Some schools use an E instead of an F.

Ahhhhhhhhhh I understand now.

 

[joebryant]

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I'd never even heard of a counter tenor until last year when I bought a DVD of the Covent Garden production of "Die Fledermaus" (Joan Sutherland's retirement celebration). They had used one to sing the role of Prince Orlovsky. Turns out that we even have a couple of them who live in Indianapolis.
Are you the mezzo soprano who went to Juliard?

EDIT: BTW, are you aware that your local theater is showing "Turandot" TODAY, Saturday, November 7, 2009 (1 PM ET / 10 AM PT)
Expected Running time: 3 hours, 25 minutes. 2 intermissions:
http://www.ncm.com/Fathom/Upcoming/
http://www.ncm.com/FathomContent/PDF/MET0910Theaters091009_LIVE.pdf