My heart breaks

[AllyJane]

Im so outraged, i can hardly type...

Tearing up as i am watching the video.. Police are meant to protect us, this is NOT protection.

 

[hemet dennis]

Uh, yes he would. You know how I know? He tried to comply and they just continued to beat him and he died. Kind of hard to comply when those beating you have lost interest in making you comply in favor of beating you now that they have an excuse.

I have spoked to two people in law enforcement, one a cop in LA. Both said there was nothing excusable about this incident. Both were disgusted.

Did you watch the whole video ? When he finally stopped resisting they cuffed him and got off him.
Do you really think the cops go around looking for people to beat up ? Do you think they left the station that night and said "lets go kill someone tonight" ? All they wanted was to find out who he was and go on there way. They told him that several times.

 

[AllyJane]

The guy was repeating "I'm Sorry"
As far as i have seen he was not fighting back!

How can you do, i personally think that they did intend to beat him up, they didn't stop, they could have just pinned him down, and not beat into him. There was no reason for it! NONE AT ALL.

He sounded a little drunk to me, but how can he do anything with people tasering him? They had him by his arm behind his back, so what reason is there to kick him? You can't wait until 2 more cops come and put him in the back of a cop van?

 

[RHRanch]

Did you watch the whole video ? When he finally stopped resisting they cuffed him and got off him.
Do you really think the cops go around looking for people to beat up ? Do you think they left the station that night and said "lets go kill someone tonight" ? All they wanted was to find out who he was and go on there way. They told him that several times.

No, I think they fell into mob mentality and found a marginalized victim. Someone they thought they could beat up and not get in trouble for it. Its amazing how you could watch the same video and come away thinking this is all above board and acceptable police procedure. They KILLED him. Any reasonable person would know that that amount of force will result in serious injury and/or death. 6 cops vs a single 130 pound malnurished mentally ill person.

 

[hemet dennis]

The cop actually threatened him with his fists - Thats NOT okay for cops to do. Lots of cops have a problem with how this was handled, too - they know this was an abuse of power.

As to what I would do differently.... Well watch the video. No way no how do they need to sit on him and bounce on him. (kind of hard to breathe with a bunch af fat cops crushing you) COD: Asphyxiation/crushed windpipe) They could have put him in the patrol car or hog tied him. They know he's mentally ill, so they can do a 51-50 and have him hospitalized (standard procedure). I probably wouldnt bash someone in the face until thier eyeball turns black from bood - Read the autopsy report and look at the diagrams - all those broken bones in his face .Tasing him until the taser ran out probably not a good idea either, unless you are trying to torture someone, which is what they were doing. Face it.

The cops need to control him. And you say just put him in the car. They need to search him and cuff him to put him in the car. And the cop can threaten him when he will not follow directions. They don't know what he has, a knife, a gun, anything.

 

[hemet dennis]

The guy was repeating "I'm Sorry"
As far as i have seen he was not fighting back!

How can you do, i personally think that they did intend to beat him up, they didn't stop, they could have just pinned him down, and not beat into him. There was no reason for it! NONE AT ALL.

He sounded a little drunk to me, but how can he do anything with people tasering him? They had him by his arm behind his back, so what reason is there to kick him? You can't wait until 2 more cops come and put him in the back of a cop van?

So all I have to do is say I'm sorry and then the cops will stop and he can pull a gun out of his pants and shot them.

 

[RHRanch]

The cops need to control him. And you say just put him in the car. They need to search him and cuff him to put him in the car. And the cop can threaten him when he will not follow directions. They don't know what he has, a knife, a gun, anything.

You can search a hog tied person. My law enforcement relative can do so, he might not even need the help of a second person. You seem to think that beating someone is the only way to gain compliance, the only way to be able to search them.

"You see my fists? They're getting ready to f--- you up!" : You are so right, cops should be able to say this to people and then follow through with those threats. What on earth would be wrong with that?

 

[hemet dennis]

No, I think they fell into mob mentality and found a marginalized victim. Someone they thought they could beat up and not get in trouble for it. Its amazing how you could watch the same video and come away thinking this is all above board and acceptable police procedure. They KILLED him. Any reasonable person would know that that amount of force will result in serious injury and/or death. 6 cops vs a single 130 pound malnurished mentally ill person.

If you watch the video he is still kicking his legs and trying to get the cops off him. No one can see what he is doing with his hands. Most of the time it was the two cops. So the others should have just watched ?

 

[hemet dennis]

You can search a hog tied person. My law enforcement relative can do so, he might not even need the help of a second person. You seem to think that beating someone is the only way to gain compliance, the only way to be able to search them.

How do you cuff a person that's resisting ?

 

[RHRanch]

How do you cuff a person that's resisting ?

You go to the police academy and learn how.