My purebred Ameraucana hen laid a tan egg!!! D=

[horsecrazychicklovingkid]

Okay, I'm starting over.


This hen came from a flock that has not had anything besides standard Ameraucanas bred into it for about 20 years.

 

[horsecrazychicklovingkid]

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No, being born the wrong color does not make it an EE, that makes it a defect. An EE is an Ameraucana with other breeds bred into it, recently.



Sigh. Nope, again. An EE is a bird who carries a blue egg laying gene, not necessarily at all connected to an Ameraucana. Quechua, for example, were introduced to produce the original EEs. The Ameraucana came AFTER the EE, and Quechua, not before. This is what I mean about doing your research....

There is no research for EEs because they aren't a breed, they are any bird who lays blue eggs that doesn't match up with a standard blue egg laying chicken.

 

[EMaker]

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Sigh. Nope, again. An EE is a bird who carries a blue egg laying gene, not necessarily at all connected to an Ameraucana. Quechua, for example, were introduced to produce the original EEs. The Ameraucana came AFTER the EE, and Quechua, not before. This is what I mean about doing your research....

There is no research for EEs because they aren't a breed, they are any bird who lays blue eggs that doesn't match up with a standard blue egg laying chicken.



GOOD GRIEF!!

I am suggesting that you research AMERAUCANAS, not EEs! And yes, there is information regarding EEs and their initial introduction into the US via the Quechua, who carried the blue egg gene and who were used to establish the first EE flocks at McMurray. But that's not about which you need more information; you made many totally erroneous statements about Ameraucanas, so I am recommending that you spend time perusing the very informative breed organization website to get at least a basic understanding of the breed...BEFORE you make more erroneous statements.

 

[bairo]

Going back to post 85....and again at 93

Absolutely correct. Most people (even ones that consider themselves good breeders) really do not fully understand the way chickens are and/or need to be bred. emaker is trying to get everyone to understand some important points about chicken genetics as it relates to modern breeding programs....If you dont open your mind a bit to not thinking about it in a linear fashion...you'll never get it.

 

[horsecrazychicklovingkid]

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There is no research for EEs because they aren't a breed, they are any bird who lays blue eggs that doesn't match up with a standard blue egg laying chicken.



GOOD GRIEF!!

I am suggesting that you research AMERAUCANAS, not EEs! And yes, there is information regarding EEs and their initial introduction into the US via the Quechua, who carried the blue egg gene and who were used to establish the first EE flocks at McMurray. But that's not about which you need more information; you made many totally erroneous statements about Ameraucanas, so I am recommending that you spend time perusing the very informative breed organization website to get at least a basic understanding of the breed...BEFORE you make more erroneous statements.

Most EEs don't come from hatcheries, so you can't say that EEs came from that, they used to all come from hatcheries like McMurray, but over the past few years people have begun breeding their own with anything and everything. I suggest that you do not use caps, italics, bold, or capital letters on my thread. That post was incredibly rude. If you are going to post nasty things, don't post anything at all.

If you really want to say that Ameraucanas are inbred mutts and EEs are not and that they are no different than your white, muffed, green legged, blue egg laying EEs, then you can go and tell that to Paul Smith, and Wayne Meredith, and Jean Iribbeck, and all of those Ameraucana breeders who have spent a large portion of their lives breeding showing, and perfecting purebred Ameraucana chickens.

 

[LizaBlue]

Does anyone else realize that the OP is a young teen kid? Give her a break. You've been arguing with a child. Check out her BYC page. Sure, she's been blowing facts off like she knows what she's talking about, but didn't we all think we know everything at that age? We knew only what we wanted to, and knew it with authority! She may or may not learn to think/research before she posts, but as adults, we can choose not to play.

 

[horsecrazychicklovingkid]

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I, and other other Ameraucana breeders know a lot about genes, and what EMaker is saying is purely rude and is not acceptable for this thread, of which I was simply posting about my hen for those who were interested in hearing, not those who were interested in arguing.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

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So, get a whole bunch of different people breeding and showing your white EEs consistently over a couple of generations (males, females, young, and old), come up with a breed name and a description and apply to the APA for SOP acceptance. At that point there is at least some "true" breeding being demonstrated. It's a start. A whole bunch of generations down the road you might start getting to the point where you don't end up with unhappy customers because their eggs hatched out birds that lay the wrong coloured eggs or have weird combs or incorrect leg colour, or, heaven forbid, feather leakage.

All species have anomalies. It happens. Responsible breeders simply "fix" or cull that one that doesn't fit their particular breed description (don't use it in future breeding programs) and move on. Chickens are no different.

 

[bairo]

let me clarify "linear thinking" to save some the trouble of looking it up.

"A process of thought following known cycles or step-by-step progression where a response to a step must be elicited before another step is taken"

Put another way... "To continue to look at something from one point of view. To take information or observations from one situation, place this data in another situation (usually later), and make a conclusion in the later situation."

This can be dangerous especially with animal husbandry.

 

[horsecrazychicklovingkid]

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That was incredibly rude and i will have to ask you not to post anything else on this thread. I am a very knowledgeably young lady. I do a lot of research, along with my mom and dad. We are good friends with several judges and top breeders and I was been recently told by a judge that our Ameraucana roo is one of the best specimens of the breed he has seen in a long time.