Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[DesertChic]

Yeah, she's very pretty. I love how her "muff" is sort of different colored than her body, and her "hair" is different from both - she looks like a well dressed lady going to the opera! And she's big, too.

What she is NOT is sociable. She is not aggressive (to me or other chickens) or misbehaved or anything, she just doesn't like me much - it probably wouldn't be so obvious if the other pullets didn't adore me and come running when I am near and tug on my pants, stand on my shoes, and climb on my arms and lap and shoulders.

She'd make a good pair with Snape - an aloof couple.

- Ant Farm

This is REALLY interesting, because my first generation NN with the partridge coloring and all of her offspring are also more aloof too, whereas most of the other birds are VERY friendly and even downright affectionate. Strange coincidence.....

 

[Kassaundra]

Took some pics of the honorary NN today, the black ones that hatched out of the white eggs are getting the cutest top knots, their mom is a brabanter their dad could be too, but could be something else too.






This one makes me sad b/c I'm 99.9% sure he is a boy





This little one hatched from the biggest egg, and is about 1/2 the size of the others











Fingers are crossed this little brabanter is a girl (the darker one) she has a shorter body, smaller comb and not as much white in her feathers.

 

[Phill98]

Took some pics of the honorary NN today, the black ones that hatched out of the white eggs are getting the cutest top knots, their mom is a brabanter their dad could be too, but could be something else too. This one makes me sad b/c I'm 99.9% sure he is a boy This little one hatched from the biggest egg, and is about 1/2 the size of the others Fingers are crossed this little brabanter is a girl (the darker one) she has a shorter body, smaller comb and not as much white in her feathers.

They are cute! One thing I love about them are their legs. They have beautiful leg colors, I have never seen something like that, bright pink legs, awsome!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Well, I knew that I needed to really get on it with regard to separating the pullets from cockerels. But time got away from me. I was thinking I needed to work out something temporary this weekend until I finally get the coop done - after all, they are 17 weeks old. But then this evening the pressure on the pullets ramped up to a whole new level - and I was there to observe. Finally when I saw Trinity caught by her skin by Snape, who wouldn't let go, that was it - when I checked her out, blood was running down her neck fairly briskly - in attempting to mount, he took a decent hunk out of her head right behind the "hair" line.

So, that was that. It was getting dark and I also had a work dinner to go to, but first I needed to stop the bleeding, spray with vetericyn, then add the purple Peck no more (thankfully she's dark-faced as well, which helps) - she got a little ride in my arms throughout the yard and house to get the stuff, as I was unwilling to put her down with them until she was treated. Then it was time for a very quick emergency change in living quarters for the cockerels. I very quickly dragged the short old NH PVC enclosure over to clean ground, set it up as quick as I could with a tarp cover, put in water, and then headed back to the tractor (by which time they were going to bed, so I could easily get hold of the boys). I quickly moved the three NN cockerels (who are totally baffled and a bit disoriented, but otherwise seem ok). I just checked on them just now after my dinner - they're huddled together by the door snoozing. I have a small paddock (same as for the NHs) set up for them, but I think I may try to see if I can swing working at home for some of the time tomorrow so I can keep an eye on them to ensure it keeps them confined and so I can make any adjustments needed (it was getting dark by the end there). I'm fairly sure they won't be able to fly out as they're so heavy, though...

Poor girls - they'll heal, but I felt so stupid for having to have that happen before I moved the boys out. I really did know better. Procrastination is the worst...

It does worry me though - will their skin toughen up, or this be a chronic worry with the NNs after they are put back together until the boys learn more finesse?

- Ant Farm

 

[shahtir101]

Oh, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Yes, I got what I would consider a "decent" variety. Of the original 13 I grew out, predictably, quite a few red/buff, but also one pretty solid black pullet, black with red highlights, a beautiful partridge young lady named Mystique, and a few boys and girls with mostly black but red or mahogany highlights/overlay. The red/buffs were also a bit varied in appearance as well (black feather accents, lighter or deeper red in the boys, etc.) No white except as some wing feathers on some of the dark ones. (Sorry, my chicken color vocabulary is not so great a the moment.) Lots of different leg colors - white, yellow, yellow with black overlay, and slate/blue. You will get both NN and Nn - and I actually got one fully feathered chick (though it died). Some were smaller, but I also got some nice big ones. (And made my cull decisions on the cockerels based in part on that.) Definitely a mixed bag, which I liked. Here are some photos of the 9 remaining after cockerel cull (culled cockerels also a mix of darks and reds). They are 15 weeks in these photos. I would totally get NNs from Ideal again.

Severus Snape - very large, dominant cockerel. Very intense. Actually has a rose comb! Tank is behind him - also big blocky boy (he's red):


Apoc - who started out yellow downed - Kev says he is wheaten with mahogany. He's a pretty mix of black, deep mahogany, and orange. Switch is the pullet behind him - mostly black, with some subtle brown feather edging and reddish "hair":


Trinity, the largest pullet, also the only dark one who has persisted as true solid black into adulthood (no red/brown anywhere):


Sweetie (buff/red - my precious girl who lives up to her name):


Puppy - buff pullet, but with more black in her feathers:


Mystique, also one of the largest girls, started black downed, has grown up to have this lovely partridge pattern and mahogany "hair" like her namesake:

Another one of Sweetie being a sweetie - just because:


- Ant Farm

beautiful! will defiantly add them to my list of chickens to get in the spring

 

[Kassaundra]

Well, I knew that I needed to really get on it with regard to separating the pullets from cockerels. But time got away from me. I was thinking I needed to work out something temporary this weekend until I finally get the coop done - after all, they are 17 weeks old. But then this evening the pressure on the pullets ramped up to a whole new level - and I was there to observe. Finally when I saw Trinity caught by her skin by Snape, who wouldn't let go, that was it - when I checked her out, blood was running down her neck fairly briskly - in attempting to mount, he took a decent hunk out of her head right behind the "hair" line.

So, that was that. It was getting dark and I also had a work dinner to go to, but first I needed to stop the bleeding, spray with vetericyn, then add the purple Peck no more (thankfully she's dark-faced as well, which helps) - she got a little ride in my arms throughout the yard and house to get the stuff, as I was unwilling to put her down with them until she was treated. Then it was time for a very quick emergency change in living quarters for the cockerels. I very quickly dragged the short old NH PVC enclosure over to clean ground, set it up as quick as I could with a tarp cover, put in water, and then headed back to the tractor (by which time they were going to bed, so I could easily get hold of the boys). I quickly moved the three NN cockerels (who are totally baffled and a bit disoriented, but otherwise seem ok). I just checked on them just now after my dinner - they're huddled together by the door snoozing. I have a small paddock (same as for the NHs) set up for them, but I think I may try to see if I can swing working at home for some of the time tomorrow so I can keep an eye on them to ensure it keeps them confined and so I can make any adjustments needed (it was getting dark by the end there). I'm fairly sure they won't be able to fly out as they're so heavy, though...

Poor girls - they'll heal, but I felt so stupid for having to have that happen before I moved the boys out. I really did know better. Procrastination is the worst...

It does worry me though - will their skin toughen up, or this be a chronic worry with the NNs after they are put back together until the boys learn more finesse?

- Ant Farm

It has only been a problem w/ young unskilled males, or to many males w/ my flock, even then is by far the exception not the rule.

 

[Kev]

It has only been a problem w/ young unskilled males, or to many males w/ my flock, even then is by far the exception not the rule.

X2. And I've raised quite a lot of NN over the years, it was always an exception for tears, they were always pullets except for one older hen in a flock with too many males which were beating up an actively breeding rooster.

I don't even separate cockerel from pullet broodmates. They all grow up together. However if there's a very bad ratio of roosters to pullets, the boys do get culled out earlier to reduce the male ratio but never separated...

Also the skin does get much thicker as they mature.

 

[DesertChic]

Well, I knew that I needed to really get on it with regard to separating the pullets from cockerels. But time got away from me. I was thinking I needed to work out something temporary this weekend until I finally get the coop done - after all, they are 17 weeks old. But then this evening the pressure on the pullets ramped up to a whole new level - and I was there to observe. Finally when I saw Trinity caught by her skin by Snape, who wouldn't let go, that was it - when I checked her out, blood was running down her neck fairly briskly - in attempting to mount, he took a decent hunk out of her head right behind the "hair" line.

So, that was that. It was getting dark and I also had a work dinner to go to, but first I needed to stop the bleeding, spray with vetericyn, then add the purple Peck no more (thankfully she's dark-faced as well, which helps) - she got a little ride in my arms throughout the yard and house to get the stuff, as I was unwilling to put her down with them until she was treated. Then it was time for a very quick emergency change in living quarters for the cockerels. I very quickly dragged the short old NH PVC enclosure over to clean ground, set it up as quick as I could with a tarp cover, put in water, and then headed back to the tractor (by which time they were going to bed, so I could easily get hold of the boys). I quickly moved the three NN cockerels (who are totally baffled and a bit disoriented, but otherwise seem ok). I just checked on them just now after my dinner - they're huddled together by the door snoozing. I have a small paddock (same as for the NHs) set up for them, but I think I may try to see if I can swing working at home for some of the time tomorrow so I can keep an eye on them to ensure it keeps them confined and so I can make any adjustments needed (it was getting dark by the end there). I'm fairly sure they won't be able to fly out as they're so heavy, though...

Poor girls - they'll heal, but I felt so stupid for having to have that happen before I moved the boys out. I really did know better. Procrastination is the worst...

It does worry me though - will their skin toughen up, or this be a chronic worry with the NNs after they are put back together until the boys learn more finesse?

- Ant Farm

One of the best and most amazing things about chickens is that they heal incredibly quickly. The boys will take a while to smooth out their moves but in all honesty you may still witness the girls getting roughed up from time to time. A lot of my girls literally run to my arms when the boys are getting too amorous with them, and I still sometime have to play field medic...but it does get better over time.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

It has only been a problem w/ young unskilled males, or to many males w/ my flock, even then is by far the exception not the rule.

That's reassuring. I'm not putting the single chosen boy (likely Snape) back in with the NN girls for a while, maybe after they start laying in the new coop. I'll only have one with the 7 girls, and Tank and Apoc will have be roomies for a while until the Speckled Sussex are old enough for Tank to join then. Apoc will have to be solo until breeding time.

- Ant Farm

 

[Kev]

Took some pics of the honorary NN today, the black ones that hatched out of the white eggs are getting the cutest top knots, their mom is a brabanter their dad could be too, but could be something else too.






This one makes me sad b/c I'm 99.9% sure he is a boy

Yeah I'd mark that one as a boy also... seems to have barring..?

if they have the forward flip crests really would like to see that on a NN..