Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kassaundra]

I know you guys are jonesing for some toddler pics, right? lol Sorry about the poopy backgrounds in some of the pics.







Beautimous and her buddy (she is the darker headed one)






Both these guys are barred







Me Too and Blondie, this is her first day in clothes she is acting all dramatic! lol Me Too is the one w/ grey colored down at hatch.







The two Fm guys, the one w/ the white goatee also has white butt fuzz and a couple of white wing feathers, you can see a little hint in the pics.








The two redheads







These two had the most contrast in the chipmunk striping at hatch.


This is the first day out of the brooder (they haven't had heat in the day for most of this week) I would have let them out last week but they are delayed b/c of blondie.

 

[DesertChic]

Is it normal for a NN to prefer foraging and Cracked Corn over feed? All of my hens tear the feed up but the rooster sits back and waits until the corn is put in the feeder and then they better get out of the way. He loves him some corn.
Are the hens the same, or is it just that the rooster doesn't need the nutrients in the Layer feed so he doesn't crave the feed? It is good feed- Dumor from TSC. I used to feed Purina Layena until I noticed the tags are remarkable similar, the feed looks/smells the same and the only difference in the labeling is some of the supplements are not listed in the daily allowance type chart yet the mineral supplement ingredients are clearly listed as being added. Also the bag is of the same material and stiching, so I call BS on a difference unless I am told otherwise.

Well, I never feed corn to my chickens so I can't comment on that, but I do routinely observe my roosters standing back from the feeders and allowing the hens and pullets to get their share first. In fact, several of my cockerels/roosters will call the straggler female over and make room for her at the feeder so she can get her fill. And my NNs are most definitely outstanding foragers. They all take the act of foraging and scratching through my compost piles very seriously.

 

[DesertChic]

I know you guys are jonesing for some toddler pics, right? lol Sorry about the poopy backgrounds in some of the pics.




Me Too and Blondie, this is her first day in clothes she is acting all dramatic! lol Me Too is the one w/ grey colored down at hatch.







The two Fm guys, the one w/ the white goatee also has white butt fuzz and a couple of white wing feathers, you can see a little hint in the pics.

I'm always jonesing for some toddler pics from you...and chick picks...hen and rooster pics...I simply love your birds!

These two photos are the award winners in my book.
Top photo: "Does this dress make my butt look big?"
Bottom photo: Black beauty twins! Absolutely gorgeous!

 

[nchvac]

Well, I never feed corn to my chickens so I can't comment on that, but I do routinely observe my roosters standing back from the feeders and allowing the hens and pullets to get their share first. In fact, several of my cockerels/roosters will call the straggler female over and make room for her at the feeder so she can get her fill. And my NNs are most definitely outstanding foragers. They all take the act of foraging and scratching through my compost piles very seriously.

He may be doing that because he no doubt watches out for his ladies. In thinking, probably the reason he goes for the corn is that the hens don't much care for it like KEV said, they leave it, so no harm in him eating the corn I guess while they eat the feed.

Anyone else notice the crop on the NNs are smaller than other breeds? Wonder why. I don't think it the feathers. My hen get a baseball sized chaw in there while the rooster only has a golf ball. Ofcourse it is his job to make sure they eat plenty so maybe that is why. But the pics I see online seem to all have a small crop on the NNs.

 

[nchvac]

Hmm... I've only used that and never had a problem. Don't think it was the feed, but whatever floats your boat.

The feed is the same. Look at the material and print on the label and bag, look at the ingredients- the listing is the same except a couple of the supplements on the Dumor are not listed in the Percentage column but are listed in the ingredients, like where did they go and why is that kind of deception allowed with labeling.

Same is true of Milk at our local Grocery store- all is made by pet milk and if you look at the Date and factory stamp you will notice all is the same except the tracking number. Other items the same. If I can save $2 a bag on feed and still have the same quality, well you can just call my feed and me trash all the way to the cash register.

 

[generaldsherman]

The feed is the same. Look at the material and print on the label and bag, look at the ingredients- the listing is the same except a couple of the supplements on the Dumor are not listed in the Percentage column but are listed in the ingredients, like where did they go and why is that kind of deception allowed with labeling.

Same is true of Milk at our local Grocery store- all is made by pet milk and if you look at the Date and factory stamp you will notice all is the same except the tracking number. Other items the same. If I can save $2 a bag on feed and still have the same quality, well you can just call my feed and me trash all the way to the cash register.

Agreed. To be fair, I just started raising chickens last June, but I've only used the TSC brand feed, and I never lost any due to the feed (coyotes, illness, and splayed leg on the other hand...)

 

[Kev]

Golden partridge, 9 pounds at 8 months old. Picture kinda seems to make him look short but he's tall and has excellent breast- meaty and long. He is also a good example of problems with fibro breeding. He had fair gray skin as a chick- same as Kassundra's Blondie. Yet you would be hard pressed to see fibro signs on him.



Jazz wattles!



Freedom/black ranger cross, don't let his super short stature(had to kneel down to take pictures) fool you as he weighs *16* pounds.. about a year old by now. Using him to improve weights in NN.

 

[draye]

This image belongs to @Kev
I have one that looks almost identical to this one. He will not be a year old until September though.
Looked for a photo, but must have deleted it.
I'll try to get a photo of mine in a day or two.

 

[nchvac]

Kev brought up about the different lines of NNs and being crossed with so many other breeds. This has me frustrated. I like this breed and may very well stick with it but I am not completely satisfied with the Rooster I have. I would like to have more breast meat on him. I also would like to get some of the bloodline of hen that lays the 300 + eggs I read about from time to time. If I could do that I think I would have the perfect bird for my needs, but wouldn't everybody. And it isn't just this breed, I've dealt with this with Barred Rock and RIR.

From what I read the exceptional NN is the Translyvanian NN, but who has legitiamate stock of that back ground and are they as good as they claim? Someone on ebay sells Transylvanian eggs and claim they came from over there, but who knows? Also claim year round eggs and 300+ a year and almost anything else you want to ask about can probably be claimed, especially with hatching eggs because they likely won't hatch after shipment anyway- heck of an excuse to stretch the truth a little.

I've tried the eggs for sale list on BYC and am finding it very hard to navigate- what is the easiest way and is anyone on here selling Broiler NN? Or would one be better off to just locate some Cornish stock and breed it into the program? If so, will the chest meat show up at all or maybe in just the hens, will the egg laying drop from 300 to 125? Will there be the same body build which leads to breeding problems later on? Someone out there has good stock and evidently has no trouble selling them because they sure are not having to advertise. But I feel confident good stock is out there. PM me if you have it or know where it is.

 

[nchvac]

Agreed. To be fair, I just started raising chickens last June, but I've only used the TSC brand feed, and I never lost any due to the feed (coyotes, illness, and splayed leg on the other hand...)

And to be fair on my end I have raised meat and egg chickens for 10 years and only noticed the labeling that I speak of the last time I bought feed 2 years ago there was a difference according to my hens because they stoped eating the Dumor so I changed to Purina. Last time I for some reason looked the bags and noticed the same material and stiching and then I looked at the label and called BS on the difference. In the mean time TSC has started selling the newer brand as well as the Omega-3 Purina and now organic, so maybe they changed vendors from what they used to use- I am sure it happens often.