Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Kev]

My brother in Kentucky crossed some NN hens with an Austea-white cock and has birds he calls Overo and Tobiano. I haven't seen them but he promises to send pictures when he goes back home.

J.

That would be great!

p.s. I am really starting to think meat/animal protein is important part of chicken diet. The oriental type chicks started to feather pick their much bigger and placid brood mates.. mixing eggs into their chick starter(also all vegan, sigh....) put a stop to that.....

 

[Kev]

I'm planning on only keeping one rooster because I want to hatch some eggs eventually. Which one in everybody's opinion should I keep. I don't have the barred's picture as a closeup. He hid under the coop house. I took a picture of my white one because she has a few black feathers mixed in.

Ahhh, Phil is right, he was not paint. Which guy was in the original pic? On the left in the first pic and is also in the second pic?

Thanks very much for pics, we all love pictures on here!

did you get them recently? Looks like pretty much all cockerels, except for the white one.

As for which one to keep... that is completely up to you and your goals with them- what are your goals with them?

 

[twitchybug52]

Ahhh, Phil is right, he was not paint.   Which guy was in the original pic? On the left in the first pic and is also in the second pic?

Thanks very much for pics, we all love pictures on here!

did you get them recently?  Looks like pretty much all cockerels, except for the white one.

As for which one to keep...  that is completely up to you and your goals with them- what are your goals with them?

I've probably had them a month. The one second from the bottom was in the original picture. And with the group shot of the four he's the smaller one in the middle. My favorite is the larger one standing behind the brown. I like his coloring and I personally like the look of NN without the bow tie. I'll probably end up keeping him.

 

[Kev]

Paint has white tail with maybe some spots on it, right? That's why I thught not paint. And that spot on the neck.. I think that it is the cause of him being naked neck. If he was regulary feathered he would have layer of white covering it. (Everything that I said that is wrong, please correct me)

Turns out you were right about that cockerel, he is not paint.

Most paints do have a white tail, with or without black flecks(streaky spots) or maybe a half black tail feather. I'd have been very surprised to see a paint with mostly or all black tail. There are some with mostly or almost all black wing so I thought maybe a black tail was not so impossible..


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Yeah silver columbian with barring is also called delaware.


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That is exactly my goal, big/heavy but not overweight with lots of problems. I want them to be able to do all the normal chicken things with no problems and not needing special care in any way.

I also noticed the cornish x had nice personalities- very calm and completely non aggressive. They don't panic and so far the crosses are also showing this calm and tame personality. Very easy to raise in brooders and being in the pens all the time, not free range.

Yes have to use dominant white on black chickens, as dominant white mainly affects the black pigments and not very much effect on red/gold pigments. A good example of this is how the red sex links, some ISA browns are white on their necks and tails with a red body color.. that is the dominant white affecting the black tail and neck and leaving the red body mostly alone. So if you want paints, have to breed with black chickens, otherwise you end up with birds in that color pattern or something like red pyle- dominant white on a partridge/red duckwing.

by the way- It's supposed to hit 115-120F 43-48C this weekend.. I won't ever understand people who live in areas like this and refuse naked necks.

 

[chickengr]

Turns out you were right about that cockerel, he is not paint.

Most paints do have a white tail, with or without black flecks(streaky spots) or maybe a half black tail feather. I'd have been very surprised to see a paint with mostly or all black tail. There are some with mostly or almost all black wing so I thought maybe a black tail was not so impossible..



Yeah silver columbian with barring is also called delaware.



That is exactly my goal, big/heavy but not overweight with lots of problems. I want them to be able to do all the normal chicken things with no problems and not needing special care in any way.

I also noticed the cornish x had nice personalities- very calm and completely non aggressive. They don't panic and so far the crosses are also showing this calm and tame personality. Very easy to raise in brooders and being in the pens all the time, not free range.

Yes have to use dominant white on black chickens, as dominant white mainly affects the black pigments and not very much effect on red/gold pigments. A good example of this is how the red sex links, some ISA browns are white on their necks and tails with a red body color.. that is the dominant white affecting the black tail and neck and leaving the red body mostly alone. So if you want paints, have to breed with black chickens, otherwise you end up with birds in that color pattern or something like red pyle- dominant white on a partridge/red duckwing.

by the way- It's supposed to hit 115-120F 43-48C this weekend.. I won't ever understand people who live in areas like this and refuse naked necks.

it is already hot here. my chickens move only when the sun moves, just to find another place to hide.

what colours would these be:

this is ciqua

and these are ciqua and choco:



they are about 2 months old.

 

[Phill98]

Turns out you were right about that cockerel, he is not paint.

Most paints do have a white tail, with or without black flecks(streaky spots) or maybe a half black tail feather. I'd have been very surprised to see a paint with mostly or all black tail.  There are some with mostly or almost all black wing so I thought maybe a black tail was not so impossible..



Yeah silver columbian with barring is also called delaware. 



That is exactly my goal, big/heavy but not overweight with lots of problems. I want them to be able to do all the normal chicken things with no problems and not needing special care in any way.

I also noticed the cornish x had nice personalities- very calm and completely non aggressive. They don't panic and so far the crosses are also showing this calm and tame personality. Very easy to raise in brooders and being in the pens all the time, not free range.

Yes have to use dominant white on black chickens, as dominant white mainly affects the black pigments and not very much effect on red/gold pigments.  A good example of this is how the red sex links, some ISA browns are white on their necks and tails with a red body color.. that is the dominant white affecting the black tail and neck and leaving the red body mostly alone.   So if you want paints, have to breed with black chickens, otherwise you end up with birds in that color pattern or something like red pyle- dominant white on a partridge/red duckwing.

by the way- It's supposed to hit 115-120F  43-48C this weekend..     I won't ever understand people who live in areas like this and refuse naked necks.

I also noticed that cornish x are very tame and calm when we had them but they seem to be too fat. Maybe if a broody raised a cornish x maybe they would be more active and not go too big.

So dominant white with black tailed white would produce something like ISA browns?

 

[Phill98]

@chickengr and @twitchybug52, beautiful chickens you guys have but it seems like girls went Greece this year.

 

[Kassaundra]

I also noticed that cornish x are very tame and calm when we had them but they seem to be too fat. Maybe if a broody raised a cornish x maybe they would be more active and not go too big.

So dominant white with black tailed white would produce something like ISA browns?

I have 4 cross females right now, trying to get them to egg laying to ai w/ my naked boy so I can get some size on the nakeds. Anyway my girls even the really big one are very active, they are being raised w/ normal chickens (well as normal as mine are). They search for food, run around w/ the others their age, fly up on things that are about 3 foot tall. I don't think they are growing as fast as those that lay by the feeders and eat, but that kind of growth isn't important to me.

 

[chickengr]

my emily has been sitting like a penguin since yesterday afternoon. she is not egg bound, no fluids or anything strange in her belly. she eats, drinks even runs like crazy when I try to catch her. she is not lethargic either. what migt be wrong with her?


there has been canker and/or fungal infection in another flock of mine. they have been divided by a wire only.

 

[chickengr]

@chickengr and @twitchybug52 , beautiful chickens you guys have but it seems like girls went Greece this year.

most of this year's chicks are boys, not to mention that very few eggs hatched. I bought those 2 beauties.

I think that ISA brown are a white leghorn/RIR cross.