Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[draye]

Now you did it! Now we need chick pics!!!!

I finally met up with my local contact for some hatching eggs yesterday. I set these 25 today. Aside from some being dirty, others seem to have gotten some egg white from a broken egg on them. I tried dry scrubbing with a paper towel and scuffing a little with a butter knife, but it is what it is. I didn't want to damage the eggs. So, I'll be watching the bator for any oozers and go from there. I think one was already developing when I got it (maybe 2 days?) so that one is probably a bust, and then 2-3 others had larger air cells that were wiggly, so they'll probably quit too. For going through a 2 hour drive home, the air cells on them did REALLY well on the ones that were obviously laid within the last couple of days. I'm hopeful, especially since she has some olive layers Gorgeous birds and I'm hopeful. If half hatch, I'll be a happy camper. Cross fingers for good REAL news on April Fool's Day!

I'm going to try setting some washed refrigerated eggs this next hatch. I seen s post where someone e said they always wash theirs and get great hatched. We will see.

Owww... now that's just mean!!

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Hi everyone, I hope it's ok if I join in here. I have rescued a bantam NN hen and have decided to start breeding her. Here's a little bit about her: She used to belong to my neighbours, but they didn't have time for their chickens so they just stopped taking care of them and let them free range full time. All but two died, my NN and her roo, some sort of game bantam I think. They were doing quite well wild, but every time she hatched chicks the hawks would catch them all within a day or two. 4 months ago I rescued 3 of her chicks and built them a coop. About a month later she was broody again so I moved her and her eggs into the coop, and all 11 hatched. Unfortunately I already had plans to go away for a few weeks, and I couldn't get anyone to take care of them while I was away. So at 3 weeks I sold her chicks and put her back with the roo (I should add that I spoke to the nieghbours about this before I took the chicks and they told me I could have the hen because they don't like her, but they want to keep the rooster as they will be fixing up their coop and getting more chickens soon. I left her with the roo though because I didn't want them to be lonely). The next day the neighbour's do killed the roo and she was all alone. I felt awful but there was nothing I could do as I was leaving the next day. When I got back I didn't see her for a couple of days, so I ordered some chicks. Right after I ordered the chicks I spotted her and found she had started laying on the floor of the neighbours garage, so I built her a nest and put the eggs in it. A week later she went broody and now she is on day 9 of setting 9 healthy, developing eggs. So now I want to build her her own coop and keep 2 of her chicks so she can have her own little flock. She really is an amazing hen, surviving everything she's been through. She's very nervous of people, but is slowly getting used to me and comes to ask me for food now. Here she is with her last babies. I will have a few questions as I go along, but I'll stop here for now.

Welcome.

 

[Kev]

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Yea- Snape and Mystique. Snape would be perfect as if he were a copper man, he would be labeled black copper, so... Mystique has a nit too much color but she is black, and if Monkey has melanizers, he will help keep the chicks dark (but do expect variable leakage)

 

[Kev]

I was visiting my oldest group (Tank's kids) today. They are so sweet, especially the largest cockerel, whom I have decided to name Kirk (he loves loves loves me and jumps in my lap). The more standoffish second largest cockerel (who caught up with Kirk this week in weighing) will go by Spock if he is kept. And of course, there's... KHAN!!!!!!!!

Kirk (white legs):


Spock (yellow legs, and he has some black markings on his feathers near the neck that the others don't have):


KHAN!!!!!




I weighed and banded all the Aloha NNs today (26 of them, screaming bloody murder the whole time. It was exhausting). Lots of variety. I won't photo bomb at this point - will wait a little bit to see more feathering patterns and post photos then. I have SOOOOO many chick photos at this point (because I photo when I weigh). Struggling to keep them sorted.

Edit to add: The Aloha NNs are a week behind the Tank and Snape babies (weighing the same at 3 weeks that the others weighed at 2 weeks). I know they need size on them already, but I wonder how much long term effect shipping has on the growth and development, esp. as I'm keeping all these records.... (Tank and his buddies were never shipped - I drove to the hatchery to pick them up.) Anyone know?

- Ant Farm

yea shipping has some effect. But I think your birds are genetically much bigger so even with everything the same, yours would weigh more. in fact your birds are kind of seeming huge at this point....

silly! we NEED pics!

 

[Kev]

So from what I understand, a Naked Neck that has feathers on the front of her neck is a cross,because the feathering shows she should only have one gene for the naked neck instead of two. If bred to a normal rooster only about 25% of the chicks would have a naked neck, and the rest would be fully feathered. My naked neck hen is a rescue, so I have no idea what her background is, but she has feathers on the front of her neck and she has 5 toes and lays white eggs, so I have no doubt she must be a cross. However, the only rooster she has ever been with was a game bantam, fully feathered, and every single hatch I've seen so far has been 50/50 for naked necks. How is that even possible?

I don't know much about genetics, that's just what I understood from some research I did.

you got the expected results actually. half n half. btw as for feathers in front of neck.. despite what sources may say, it is the birds with large patches of many feathers covering most of the front that have only one gene. Most pure for NN birds actually have a tiny bowtie with a few feathers mid-neck.. the neck is very visible from the front. Total bare necks are somewhat rare/uncommon.. there is no real data on that but from my experience it may be needing two NN genes plus an extra gene that somehow makes the neck totally bare.

If your bird were in the U.S. I'd have thought her to be mixed with game chicken due to her hard, short feathers on body and a fairly big tail. I'm not familiar with the breeds and typical chickens in your country... she could either be a local breed, a mix... may still be part game as these are all over the world,

and welcome! hope the order contained a couple naked necks..

 

[lpyrbby]

I'm going to try setting some washed refrigerated eggs this next hatch. I seen s post where someone e said they always wash theirs and get great hatched. We will see.

I've heard of others using Listerine (gold specifically) as well, I'm just so dang nervous about it. Of course, I'm already nervous as it is with all the dirt and poo on a good chunk of the eggs, so I'll just have to cross fingers and hope for the best. I need some naked babies in my flock for real this time

 

[Kassaundra]

x2!!! I want to turn my blue copper marans in to naked necks! (@Kev , or @bramblefir , or whoever knows, I have a Splash copper marans rooster and 2 blue copper hens and one black copper hen. What sort of naked neck would be best to cross with them to keep close to the blue/black/splash appearance?)

- Ant Farm

I'm not kev, but my guess would be black

 

[supersymmetry]

So, here's the update for Hatch #1 (02/02/17):

They are looking great and I have some serious beefcakes in here... very wide and h e a v y.






Last 2 I haven't posted before... I got some really interesting color patterns from this hatch. Check out the white ears!

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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Here's a breeding chart for BBS.

Anything black crossed with a splash would get full blues if that's what your looking for. But if you're looking for some of each crossing the a Blue and blue Would get you all 3 colors

Yea- Snape and Mystique. Snape would be perfect as if he were a copper man, he would be labeled black copper, so... Mystique has a nit too much color but she is black, and if Monkey has melanizers, he will help keep the chicks dark (but do expect variable leakage)

Thanks all!!!!! That's what I was thinking. And maybe Trinity and Switch? Trinity is all black (except the tip of one single feather), with the bonus of being NN phenotype. Switch is also NN and is like a really dark version of Mystique and mostly has just edging on the feathers.

(As if I need another project!!!

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- Ant Farm

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

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Yeah, @Pensmaster was saying on the Educational hatching chat thread that he thinks the Tank x GNH are going to outdo the S&G. I'm thinking he may be right...

(I'll try to get pics, I promise, but there are SOOOOOO MANY!!!! BTW, Goodwin's kids all turned out to be real lookers. There's a lot of squirming with the pics, but I'll try to find some good ones.)

Gotta head back out for more yard work. This is what Sunday looks like around here... (It grew so fast!!!!)



- Ant Farm

 

[I Love Layers]

Gotta head back out for more yard work. This is what Sunday looks like around here... (It grew so fast!!!!) - Ant Farm

I'd rather have that then this!