Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[ShayBaby]

Here is a pic of my f2 black NN FM. I think I need to add in a cemani roo to get the FM up. The father has become kind of mulbery on his comb and I would like to get them black. I have 15 f2's so I will see how they grow up.

So cute!!

OMG! Look what my brown Leghorn left us today! It is HUGE!

Ouch. I think someone deserves some extra treaties. lol And, of course, always envious of your lovelies, Kassaundra!

 

[Kassaundra]

Kass you still have a nice group but I miss thing 1 & 2. Sigh I am sure that you do also.

Still have both thing 1 and 2, they just wouldn't cooperate w/ the camera today.

 

[pgpoultry]

I haven't posted here for a long time....but I thought you might like this pic. of my LF (yes I mean LF) Naked Neck Jordan who only stopped laying pretty large eggs 3 days ago. She is the best layer I have and lays eggs as large as the big Brahma girl to her right.

 

[dewey69usa]

I also want to "breed/create" a NN that has the crele coloring, only instead of the usual browns/yellows and such--have the colors be in the black/yellow/green. Kinda like a barred rock only little to no white, replace the white with yellows & greens. Had a young bird colored that way, but lost it. I tried to take some pics, but crappy camera, angle, etc. Has anyone else tried or been successful with something like this? I have 2 red NN hens under a black Ameracauna right now. That should make some interesting green eggers, I would have to think.

 

[gootziecat]

Has anyone seen the wonderful millie NN bantam (eggs) on ebay bred by Lucky Pickens? If it was spring, I'd be on them like fleas on a dog. Maybe somebody here can get them.

 

[Kev]

Has anyone seen the wonderful millie NN bantam (eggs) on ebay bred by Lucky Pickens? If it was spring, I'd be on them like fleas on a dog. Maybe somebody here can get them.

Haha NN are conquering the world, breed by breed, color by color....

 

[Kev]

I also want to "breed/create" a NN that has the crele coloring, only instead of the usual browns/yellows and such--have the colors be in the black/yellow/green. Kinda like a barred rock only little to no white, replace the white with yellows & greens. Had a young bird colored that way, but lost it. I tried to take some pics, but crappy camera, angle, etc. Has anyone else tried or been successful with something like this? I have 2 red NN hens under a black Ameracauna right now. That should make some interesting green eggers, I would have to think.

Could it have been a gold pencilled?

link to gold pencilled color(gold hamburgs)

http://www.ruleworks.co.uk/poultry/images/lanark2010/two-hens.jpg

That general sort of pattern is sort of common on young mixed color birds less than 6 months old. Normally they lose that pattern and it takes on a different one at maturity. The pattern on hamburgs is related but different and needs extra genes to keep it into maturity.

Easiest way would be breed a NN to pure hamburg, either breed back the offspring back to hamburg or breed them to each other and hatch and raise lots of chicks for several months-this option is not so easy.

 

[Kev]

I haven't posted here for a long time....but I thought you might like this pic. of my LF (yes I mean LF) Naked Neck Jordan who only stopped laying pretty large eggs 3 days ago. She is the best layer I have and lays eggs as large as the big Brahma girl to her right.

Good to see you again! Is beautiful Jordan related to is it Blackchops..? That other girl sure is molting hard.

 

[Kev]

I guess this is an f3 but it the first generation from FM to FM. The grandmother hens are 2 I got from an auction that might be from some comercial FM project. There were 8 hens all were exactly the same, black normal feathers, black skin, black crests, polydactle, strait combs standard size. All were in very bad condition,molying, missing toes and wheezing. No roosters, 2 survived. The great grand father roo was a NN cross that looked like it had some maylay in it as it was very upright with pea comb. He was crossed with a jersey giant to make the grand father. I used 6 FM pullets (1NN) from the NN father and the FM hen and one NN FM roo. These are chicks from that group and now I am standardizing them. I want black feathers with strong FM and a small modified pea comb with small or no waddles in as large a size as possible. I want to develop them in both NN and normal together. I will produce as many as possibe each generation and select the best blackest combed NN roo and a mix of the best NN and non hens with all the traits I want. I will use a NN roo because you can see the ones that hold the black the most, so far they have some mulbery in the comb and the neck, I hope to darken it up if I can't I will try to add in a cemani roo to the group of hens and keep going. I have am starting another project from some of the none black sports. I would like to start an all white FM and a shamo FM both possibly with some NN in the groups. The problem is it takes alot to work on several project at once because you really need to raise up alot of babys of each generation.
Rob

Very interesting history and that's a great plan. It really is a problem finding roosters that hold the dark skin color. I've also wondered why none of the black skinned breeds had naked necks.. would think with the black skin being an important trait, why not show more of it? I've seen a FM oriental type roo, he was wild looking. Good luck with your projects, would love upates and pictures of them.

 

[sharkman]

Kev
I have noticed in my first generations thay they would be black skined as babys but it would not be very strong and by the time they were adult roos they would look like normal light skins. I have 2 roos 1 normal 1 NN and no one would know they were FM they are so light now I guess some day a may slaughter them and see how there skin and iners look. Some of the black feathers on roos also start to go a little bronze as they age I will also have to keep breeding that out too.
Rob