Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[chickenmanIL89]

So do you cross an easter egger or americauna with NN to get offspring that look like NN but lay colored eggs? Which male a female? Does it matter? I really want some!!

 

[draye]

So do you cross an easter egger or americauna with NN to get offspring that look like NN but lay colored eggs? Which male a female? Does it matter? I really want some!!

It doesn't matter which way you cross them. You'll get some that look like Ameraucana/Easter Egger and some that are NN. The numbers will vary on each hatch. Not all will lay colored eggs.
I had one batch that laid only green eggs, another batch that it was about half and half that laid green eggs.

If you could find yourself a pea combed rooster it sure would most likely give you a big jump on getting the green eggs.

 

[Kev]

So one of my NN pullets decided to be broody. Poor thing. No matter how hard she tries, I just don't think she'll manage to hatch that golf ball that I put in the nesting box to train them.

Wow that's way fast, how old is she? Trying for scaleless chicks with that hatch?

 

[Kev]

So do you cross an easter egger or americauna with NN to get offspring that look like NN but lay colored eggs? Which male a female? Does it matter? I really want some!!

What do you mean by look like NN?

If you want the ones that look like the typical NN with single combs, that is not too easy to find. I used to have a good number of those but right now only have one really old hen and a daughter of hers laying blue eggs. I don't have a suitable rooster for them.. yet? I'm excited about them laying blue eggs- that is much harder to get than various green shades.. but have very limited room so I don't know if I can really maintain another separate line.

If you can't find some but willing to make some from scratch, get legbar or isbar. It won't matter if roo or hen as the gene for the colored eggs is not sex linked. Just cross them with NN of the type you like and if the legbar/isbar is pure then all daughters will lay colored eggs and all sons will be carriers.

If the comb and 'look' doesn't matter much, then any colored egger will do- araucana, ameraucana, EE The sex won't matter much however with EE it is best to use colored egger hens because EE are such a mixed genetic lot, which includes birds without the colored egg gene... and you cannot tell by looking if a rooster has the gene or not... so in this case it is really good idea to use only green or blue egger hens.

This route has a plus if the cross was done with single combedNN- the colored egg gene is located very close to the pea comb gene so they inherit together very strongly. So in the later generations you will be able to tell which pullets or cockerels have the colored egg gene- it's the pea combed ones.

With the single combed birds, it is a matter of having to wait until the pullets start laying.. no way to visually tell if they have the gene until they start laying or the rooster's daughters start laying...

 

[Kev]

Kev I found a lady local who is willing to incubate for me.so I'm taking her eggs th is weekend to start hoping to find out for sure what the problem is.

I offered to pay to have her incubate them do y'all know what a fair amount to pay her would be?

Oh that is great, is she experienced hatcher with a good incubator? It could be a good way to find out where the issue might be...

Like someone else said, I've seen $1 per egg quoted before.

 

[chickenmanIL89]

Thank you Kev and Draye! Great information! Im really looking to create a Bigger colored egg than EE or Ameracauna, will that x work on most large brown egg layers?

 

[DesertChic]

Wow that's way fast, how old is she? Trying for scaleless chicks with that hatch?

LOL! Now wouldn't that be interesting? I guess they'd all have white skin?

She's 5 months old and has only been laying for less than a month. Her eggs are only about 1.45 ounces, and that small size combined with our intense heat make me reluctant to let her hatch any right now. Because she's so fluffy and has feathered shanks I've always suspected she had some Cochin blood in her. She certainly has the Cochin broodiness gene.

 

[DesertChic]

My favorite NN cockerel was stung by a scorpion this morning. I was able to treat him very quickly, and he seems to be recovering, but I'm worrying over him. He got to live indoors with me for a while as I coddled him and willed him to recover. So far, so good...but I won't stop worrying until he's made it through at least 24 hours symptom-free.

 

[Kev]

Thank you Kev and Draye! Great information! Im really looking to create a Bigger colored egg than EE or Ameracauna, will that x work on most large brown egg layers?

Yes, the colored eggshell is very easy to work with- you can add it to a high layer line, big egg line, anything line. Select hard for the traits you want, admittedly this is a little easier with the colored eggs linked to pea comb due to not having to guess. Be sure not to cross with a tan egger with pea combs(cornish, brahma, some EE) though, that will really mess up on being able to guess which ones have the colored egg gene.

Big eggs is something you will have to be strict about selection. The egg size is lost pretty easily if not careful. Keep the sons from big egg mothers etc also measure eggs from pullets and hens but also keep track of how many eggs... one backfire in the Marans was some had selected for darkness on the eggs only and in some cases the hens did lay really dark eggs... but they were also either really lousy layers(less eggs, more pigments available) or the eggs were dark basically because they got smaller... less surface area making it easier to make them darker.

Double yolkers are so exciting but ultimately they are an annoyance, because you can't hatch from them(easily that is) and they might be a little too hard on the hen. I had a hen that laid one or two doubles every week but because of it, was able to get far less chicks out of her than other hens. Some of her daughters and grand daughters threw doubles but not as often.. seems it is gone now though.

 

[Kev]

LOL! Now wouldn't that be interesting? I guess they'd all have white skin?

She's 5 months old and has only been laying for less than a month. Her eggs are only about 1.45 ounces, and that small size combined with our intense heat make me reluctant to let her hatch any right now. Because she's so fluffy and has feathered shanks I've always suspected she had some Cochin blood in her. She certainly has the Cochin broodiness gene.

You've got a handle on the genetics thing! Yep, white skin is dominant.....

I agree most likely cochin blood in that young'un.