Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Pensmaster]

I made a shade of palm tree branches and my chickens stay under there when it is too hot. I don't know what kind of trees you have in your area but I have realized that chickens prefer anything natural. even if you put a wooden pallet with some straw they will prefer it to anything frozen. I tend to wet dirt and they have a kind of dust bath in there. my dogs do the same.

I would like to have a silkie but some of my chickens are nasty so I was afraid to get it. I believed that BCM were sweet birds as a couple I have is very sweet, but 2 of their 3 babies are horrible. it might be due to the hired broody who was very wild. the 3rd chick has been hatched by a muscovie duck and he is a sweetheart. in the other pens I have some red sex link - bad character, and NNs - too big and bossy for the tiny silkie. 

Along with the trees in the area I'm trying to get a grapevine growing on one of my coops. Now if I can get the deer to leave alone. Palm branches are a great idea and when landscapers prune them maybe I should grab some. How long do they last?

 

[chickengr]

Along with the trees in the area I'm trying to get a grapevine growing on one of my coops. Now if I can get the deer to leave alone. Palm branches are a great idea and when landscapers prune them maybe I should grab some. How long do they last?

I saw palm tree umbrellas on the beach and it is so cool under them. that is how I got the idea to use them for the chickens. I can always find them around april/may when people prune them. I guess they last for years. my last year's look brand new. I even put them on the coop's veranda.

I have been told that grape vine would need 30 years to grow in this area. as I planted 4 of them at the edge of my vegetable garden and they hardly got a few leaves, it seems people are absolutely right.

 

[Kev]

Hello! I've been lurking for awhile and thought I'd finally start posting

. I just started into chickens and have learned a lot from this thread so far. My flock is still really young and I don't even have one chicken laying yet. I hope to get an incubator and do some projects with NN. Here are a few of mine (and a silkie, too).

Welcome and nice looking chicks. Are they mixed with white rocks? I ask as the guy on the left has a pattern that some people are starting to call "Paint".. basically whites with patch(es) of black.

I'm not sure if you already knew or if guesses were welcome, Mr. Paint is a male.. the barred one seems to be showing a good bit of white on the shoulder/back area.. I'd eye that one as a male too.. the white one looks pretty big, looks pullety otherwise though. The silkie is a girl for sure due to her color pattern(would have been much darker if male).

 

[Kev]

I've decided I had the color code wrong on this hatch. I had a code written down but lost it the day after I made it, so I've been watching and trying to figure out what color went with what run.

I think I've figured out the yellow coded ones.

Rooster: Golden Partridge Naked Neck; heritage is Sire was a Black Sex Link ( I called him Silver Barred) and his mother was a Black Crossbred hen that was 1/2 Black Jersey Giant and 1/4 each of Easter Egger and Production Red. Here's a picture as a reminder:


Hens: Blue Red Naked Neck and 2 ( Black Gold ) hens the Blue Red was a half sister to the other two. They were from my first Blue Red NN hen I had gotten.

A Red NN hen that was from the Aloha eggs I got from @alohachickens .

A White ( has a couple of black spots) NN hen.

These 5 were the possible mothers.

Now here's a picture of the 8 chicks I've kept from these matings.

Now I'm asking for @Kev is it possible for the whiter looking chicks (2) they have darker markings on them are out of the white hen?

I'm figuring that the darker ones with the gold markings are out of the Black Gold hens, the red ones obviously are from the red hen and the other 2 is black and a blue are out of the Blue Red Hen.

The rooster is Golden- genetically half gold half silver so he is going to throw half silver pullets, even with any gold/red colored hens.. the whiter ones are the Silver versions of the three red/buff ones in the middle and top of picture. They easily could be full siblings- two being Silver, three being Gold. Not saying they are full siblings for sure, just that is very possible.

Is your white hen "spotty" as in pure white with random black feathers or is there sort of a pattern to the spots(like on the three whiter chicks)?

If there is a Silver cockerel, I would think it is a son out of the white hen because those probably are pure for Silver.. which is not possible out of any hens showing red/gold.

Your rooster also has the genes for "red" so he is able to throw redder birds out of something like buff or light gold hens..

The two black chicks and the "black/red" chick on left definitely are from the black gold or even the blue red hen if she is basically solid blue with some red markings(like on a blue colored black sex link)

 

[draye]

Is your white hen "spotty" as in pure white with random black feathers or is there sort of a pattern to the spots(like on the three whiter chicks)? 

If there is a Silver cockerel, I would think it is a son out of the white hen because those probably are pure for Silver..  which is not possible out of any hens showing red/gold..

Here is the White hen.

She does have a couple of black spots, sometimes you have to look hard to see them.

Her mom was white with a few more random Blavk spots. Her dad was a Blue Red rooster.

If there is a Silver cockerel, I would think it is a son out of the white hen because those probably are pure for Silver.. which is not possible out of any hens showing red/gold.

I think both of those whitish one I'm asking about are both pullets. So I'm going to go with them bring from the Black Gold hens, instead of the white one.

 

[Pensmaster]

I saw palm tree umbrellas on the beach and it is so cool under them. that is how I got the idea to use them for the chickens. I can always find them around april/may when people prune them. I guess they last for years. my last year's look brand new. I even put them on the coop's veranda.

I have been told that grape vine would need 30 years to grow in this area. as I planted 4 of them at the edge of my vegetable garden and they hardly got a few leaves, it seems people are absolutely right.

Here the grapevines are like weeds. Whack them back in the fall and they can reach up to 10 feet easy. Another thing I like they lose their leaves which is nice for winter sun.

Palms would be easy for me to get. Company I work for has them in the model homes and they get pruned from time to time.

 

[Phill98]

Welcome and nice looking chicks. Are they mixed with white rocks?  I ask as the guy on the left has a pattern that some people are starting to call "Paint"..   basically whites with patch(es) of black.

I'm not sure if you already knew or if guesses were welcome, Mr. Paint is a male.. the barred one seems to be showing a good bit of white on the shoulder/back area.. I'd eye that one as a male too.. the white one looks pretty big, looks pullety otherwise though. The silkie is a girl for sure due to her color pattern(would have been much darker if male).

I agree on everything but one thing. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that rooster is paint color. If I see i right he has barred tail and that spot in front is also barred to my eye and that reminedes me of delaware color. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's possible because of that barred rooster that is probably it's sibling.

At least I see it that way. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Kev]

Here is the White hen.

She does have a couple of black spots, sometimes you have to look hard to see them.

Her mom was white with a few more random Blavk spots. Her dad was a Blue Red rooster.
I think both of those whitish one I'm asking about are both pullets. So I'm going to go with them bring from the Black Gold hens, instead of the white one.

The bolded part is a very important clue- Silver is sex linked.. so the only way a pullet/hen can be Silver is if her father was either a Silver or a silver carrier(like your Golden rooster).

With her father being a red(no silver) she cannot be Silver.

It's the same situation with barring- the only way for hens to be barred is if their father was barred.

 

[Kev]

I agree on everything but one thing. Maybe I am wrong but I don't think that rooster is paint color. If I see i right he has barred tail and that spot in front is also barred to my eye and that reminedes me of delaware color. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it's possible because of that barred rooster that is probably it's sibling.

At least I see it that way. Maybe I'm wrong.

I do know what you mean. I also agree that boy also being barred is very likely due to the other barred bird. The feathers on head seem to show strongest evidence of barring in that picture, the black patch on chest is harder to read, not sure if it is white feathers overlapping the black or they are showing white mottled tips or....

Delaware is barring over a silver columbian.. at a glance he does look either silver columbian or delaware.. however columbian normally gives basically a symmetrical pattern- white body, black mostly confined to particular areas, due to the effects of the Columbian gene.

This chick has a large patch of black in an non-typical area for a columbian.. and he does not have the corresponding patch on the other side. That's what made me bring up "Paint" plus the one chick being white also made me think it was probably the dominant version of white involved.

Random black feathers and patches and not being symmetrical at all is typical of dominant white crosses/mixes. barring and mottle is also often present in white chicken stock.

Here are my own crosses with dominant white birds-




The father was not pure for dominant white, as half of the chicks came out non-white. All of the non-white chicks are barred, so he was pure for barring. Interestingly, as far as I can see my "paints" are not really showing any hint of barring.. yet?

p.s. both of them are also fibro... proving how strong the Id and barring genes can be at repressing the skin color. It's barely visible as a slight tint to their legs.

 

[twitchybug52]

Welcome and nice looking chicks. Are they mixed with white rocks?  I ask as the guy on the left has a pattern that some people are starting to call "Paint"..   basically whites with patch(es) of black.

I'm not sure if you already knew or if guesses were welcome, Mr. Paint is a male.. the barred one seems to be showing a good bit of white on the shoulder/back area.. I'd eye that one as a male too.. the white one looks pretty big, looks pullety otherwise though. The silkie is a girl for sure due to her color pattern(would have been much darker if male).

I'm not sure what they are mixed with. I bought them from a breeder (hatcher

). I think I just have bad rooster luck lol. I purchased six from her and only one is showing pullet signs (the white one). The silkie was bought because my son thought it was cute and fluffy. I was hoping for a hen but wasn't sure. Thanks!