Naked Neck/Turken Thread

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Wow Dipsy Doodle Doo, you've got every shade of egg possible don't you?!! Those Frizzles are pretty cute. Is it harder for them to stay warm?

 

[gootziecat]

I need to know more about NNs. People who like them are crazy about them. I have a friend that has one, wouldn't be without one, and says there's nothing like them. What is it about their personality that makes them so special? I'm not being smart. This is a sincere question. Thank you.

 

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gootziecat
I am relatively new to NNs and my experience is not all good. I am sure it depends where you get your chickens from! The meanest chicken I have in my flock is a young NN rooster. At 6 weeks old he attacked one of my smallest 6 week olds and treated her so badly she had to be culled. "Brutus" is now in solitary confinement and will never be used for breeding. I am getting more NNs from another source later in the spring and hope to have all docile, nice, friendly chickens

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[Dipsy Doodle Doo]

Hi! I don't have any eggs that could really be called 'dark olive' (no dark-egg layers here to cross out to).
Mine are middle-of-the-road when it comes to *friendly*. The more generations crossed to Ameraucana, the more skittish they seem to be. The bantam NN's that have more Cochin and Silkie are more laid back. This latest group of NN's hatched from the blue barred Rock and black Naked Neck green-egger hen act more 'Rock-ish', etc.
I mostly like them because they look neat.

It is my understanding that every chicken has the genes for the NN it's just that in most it is a dormant gene...

I don't understand that.

Here's an explanation of what to expect breeding Naked Necks (to other NN's or feather necks):

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More than okay with me to edit and put up somewhere.

Could be it is wires getting crossed up by what exactly is meant by "NN"- could be either Naked Neck or 2 doses of the naked neck gene(my bad if I misunderstand.. had to enertain a nephew all day, am so exhausted right now lol)... "Formally", pure naked neck would be genotype (NaNa), not pure would be (Nana+) and feather neck (na+na+). The + is just a notation to indicate wild type(Henk's calculator uses it for example). Not naked neck is the wild type version for this gene.

For example to apply it to my own example above:

NaNa x na+na+= 100% Nana+
Nana+ x na+na+= 50% Nana+ 50% na+na+
Nana+ x Nana+= 25% NaNa 50% Nana+ 25% na+na+ (this one is how two naked necked parents can throw feather neck chicks)
NaNa x NaNa= 100% NaNa

Now my turn to worry about making it seem more confusing.. this is just the formal verison of my earlier "NN x buff orp".. this works exactly the same as pure NN/not pure NN x feather neck or NaNa/Nana+ x na+na+... I try to go for what might help the most people understand the general idea at the moment.
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Lisa​

 

[BlueBirdChick]

hey if anyone has any NN's laying right now Ill take some in the spring time. Im looking to buy some eggs.

 

[draye]

Well I went and done it. I got me two red (kind of straw color) turken hens. 1 of them doesn't have any feathers on her neck and the other one has a few on her neck. I'm holding them right now in with my Lakenvelders (they are sweet natured with other chickens but go crazy when humans are around), until I get me a coop built in the spring, then I will try to locate me a black breasted red Turken male to go with them.
Are there Black Breasted Red Turkens? What color legs are Turkens suppose to have?

 

[Sooner]

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Why yes there is a book but it is hard to find. It was written by Mr. Bernard Kellogg, the founder of the National Naked Neck Breeders Society.

To get rid of the bow tie pick the birds with the smallest bow ties and breed them and just keep selecting for the smallest. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

There are two types of NNs. Homozygous and Hetrozygous, most of the time the homozygous will have the smooth necks as they have two dominant NN genes whereas the hetrozygous will often have the bow tie as they just have one dominant NN gene. The reason for breeding the two together is to get a high percentage of the smooth necked birds. I prefer the smooth necks, Teva on the other hand likes the bow ties.

It is my understanding that every chicken has the genes for the NN it's just that in most it is a dormant gene so don't let your Cochins get too close to your NNs. LOL

Les it's good to have you back & wish I had seen this post sooner. I am just finding it.
I have been told by one breeder that breeding homozygous to homozygous that you will usually loose your vigor & head shape ect. How do you breed & do you notice any lose of vigor ect.

Those Cochins are DD & I won't get to play with them, I am going to use a RIR with a hetrozygous as you suggested to get the leg color right & go from there.

 

[brandibaby23]

I had a thought, and if it is in this thread somewhere please direst me to the picture, but has anyone ever crossed a NN with a polish lol wouldn't that be wild looking!!!

 

[Nava]

 

[flower]

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When I find a nice polish, I just might try that mix. Kev's internet is down, so he went missing a few weeks back. After I talk with him I will ask if he ever made or considered that mix since I have many other questions to ask him.
My two little showgirls are doing fine. They are housed in the elevated broody which has been adapted with an overhanging nesting box and a veranda staircase area. After a period of isolation, they remain alone since they are the only bantams that I have and will not survive with the LF. But I am thinking of giving them day olds to protect and parent when the warmer weather comes around in a month or two. Today we are having snow here in the high desert. Rain is an infrequent event here, so you can imagine how strange it is to see snow here.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE